Sticking Gas Pedals - Alaska (AK) - Page 3 - City-Data Forum

RayinAK · 02-25-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AADAD

When my former wife turned against me my gas pedal was stuck all the way New York.

That was a good thing. LOL

RayinAK · 02-25-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by starlite9

Well I have a 2010 Rav4 that came from Japan to Alaska, it isn't part of the current recall issues. But I am going to install a relay system so that when the key is shut off, the entire fuel system dies and the car will stop, may never need to use it, but it will be a part of the system.

Currently if there is a computer issue in the effected cars, there are computer controlled relays that won't shut off and the car will continue to run and won't shift, in some cases at full throttle, by installing a relay controlled by the key switch that does bypass the computer when needed to shut the fuel off is not a bad deal to be on the safe side...

I would not do that if I were you. The way I see it, you don't have a case in court if you modify the electronics of the car, specially now that Toyota has admitted that there is an unknown problem, and also since your car is not one of the models with the problems. By modifying it, you may be assuming liability for introducing a problem into the system.

RayinAK · 02-25-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnPF

Yes Spock, this is logical.
However 30+ people who bought into their claims of reliability and quality are dead now. How much money does make it up to their families?

And that's the million $ question. What can anybody do for the dead people now? Should the Federal Government put the Toyota executives on the electric chair, and fire thousands of US workers? Would that resuscitate those who died?

That some people died is a fact already. All Toyota can do is to duplicate and correct the malfunction, whatever it may be. There is no other way around it. Meanwhile Toyota will have to answer to the lawsuits that are to follow. I remember not too long ago when some US SUV's were rolling over after blown tires. Some people died, and a lot of people were blaming the SUV's designs for the problems. Then it was found that the tires being used (made in China) were causing the rollovers. At least that what the automakers involved announced.

JohnPF · 02-25-2010, 08:42 PM

I thought about it, and I would install an ignition kill switch in my *** (Oriental :P) car if I owned one. Easy to do, easy to take out if car was to be serviced for a recall.

RayinAK · 02-25-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnPF

I thought about it, and I would install an ignition kill switch in my *** (Oriental :P) car if I owned one. Easy to do, easy to take out if car was to be serviced for a recall.

Could be a good idea, then.

I do like a lot of the Toyota automobiles. My wife wants a Rev4 (?), while I have always liked the 4-Runner.

starlite9 · 02-25-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RayinAK

I would not do that if I were you. The way I see it, you don't have a case in court if you modify the electronics of the car, specially now that Toyota has admitted that there is an unknown problem, and also since your car is not one of the models with the problems. By modifying it, you may be assuming liability for introducing a problem into the system.

The deal is... I am not looking at getting into trouble to where I need to go to court. If the thing runs away, I am not going to go speeding down the highway at 100 mph figuring how great of a lawsuit this is going to be... I will just shut the damn thing off and coast to a stop and tow it to the dealer for whatever warranty work they have decided it needs to be fixed.

Been doing this Mechanical Stuff and electronics for about fifty years, I don't think there is too much under the hood I can't tell you how it works or how to repair. I installed the factory remote starter and the guys at the dealership said I needed to bring it in for them to install when I ordered it... no I didn't...

When everyone was claiming it was the gas pedal, I was saying it was a computer issue, now they are saying it is what I said months ago... All the gas pedal is on the Toyota's is a rheostat, putting a spacer behind it will do no good, just something that someone was grasping at to make it look like they were on top of it, and I was supprised that they were so far off the mark, much less either wrong or trying to buy time.

JohnPF · 02-26-2010, 12:02 AM

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When everyone was claiming it was the gas pedal, I was saying it was a computer issue, now they are saying it is what I said months ago... All the gas pedal is on the Toyota's is a rheostat, putting a spacer behind it will do no good, just something that someone was grasping at to make it look like they were on top of it, and I was supprised that they were so far off the mark, much less either wrong or trying to buy time.

See, but such make- believe repair BS is not just a gimmick, it is negligence!
And they should be sued for every penney they got!
What I am waiting for is reports of people who got the cars seviced for those recalls AND their cars still accelerated like mad.

starlite9 · 02-26-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RayinAK

And that's the million $ question. What can anybody do for the dead people now? Should the Federal Government put the Toyota executives on the electric chair, and fire thousands of US workers? Would that resuscitate those who died?

That some people died is a fact already. All Toyota can do is to duplicate and correct the malfunction, whatever it may be. There is no other way around it. Meanwhile Toyota will have to answer to the lawsuits that are to follow. I remember not too long ago when some US SUV's were rolling over after blown tires. Some people died, and a lot of people were blaming the SUV's designs for the problems. Then it was found that the tires being used (made in China) were causing the rollovers. At least that what the automakers involved announced.

Kind of a mute point now for the dead. GM, Ford and Chrysler have all killed tens of thousands with their own car's problems. Even the tires on the Ford's some years back killed dozens before someone realized it was the tires failing verses a bad driver that Ford claimed.

The majority of the recalls over the years have been on American Cars verses imports. The Quality control of the US built cars wasn't that great for a lot of years until the last ten to fifteen or so when they started to pay attention. American Cars now can go a couple of hundred thousand miles before needing major attention on the average. In the seventies, if you got 80000 miles and didn't need a new cam or timing chain, you were pretty lucky. My 04 GMC has 130000 miles on it and runs like a watch still with nothing done but oil changes.

starlite9 · 02-26-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnPF

See, but such make- believe repair BS is not just a gimmick, it is negligence!
And they should be sued for every penney they got!
What I am waiting for is reports of people who got the cars seviced for those recalls AND their cars still accelerated like mad.

It may buy them the time to find out what the glitch is and get it corrected before things go to "Hell" in a handbasket...

RayinAK · 02-26-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by starlite9

It may buy them the time to find out what the glitch is and get it corrected before things go to "Hell" in a handbasket...

Yes, all Toyota can do now is to correct the problem. That's to their advantage business-wise. If they don't find and correct the problem, then the company will just fall apart, plus still having to answer to lawsuits.