UA willfully violates our rights for over a decade (Anchorage: school district, university)

[Glitch]

I'm curious, what part of Article I, Section 19, of the Alaska State Constitution does the University of Alaska not comprehend?

A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the State or a political subdivision of the State.

The last time I checked, the University of Alaska was part of the Alaska State government. Yet they continue to enforce their unconstitutional policy of banning all firearms, except those carried by law enforcement in the performance of their duties or if they have express permission from the UA President or appropriate Chancellor.

Possession of Weapons

A. The carrying of a concealed handgun is prohibited on the property of the university, in a university office or classroom in a building not on university property or at a university sponsored activity or meeting not on university property provided appropriate notice is posted in the manner provided by law. This section shall not apply to a concealed handgun carried by a duly commissioned law enforcement officer in relation to the officer's law enforcement function or by a person expressly authorized by the president or appropriate chancellor in extraordinary circumstances

B. The possession of firearms, explosives or prohibited weapons shall be governed by university regulation.

Source: University of Alaska Policy P02.09.020

The University of Alaska continues to violate our constitutionally protected rights. This is from yesterday's Anchorage Daily News:

After displaying a .54 caliber flintlock pistol on campus, Rob Clift, right, is issued a notice of violation of university regulations by UAA Police Department deputy chief Rick Shell during a small demonstration Wednesday protesting the University of Alaska ban on carrying firearms on campuses.

Source: Gun-toting protesters issued citations at UAA: P.M. Update - Alaska | adn.com

Alaska's University MUST comply with all State laws and most especially be in compliance with the Alaska State Constitution. To completely disregard the Alaska State Constitution for the last 14 years is completely unacceptable. Someone needs to be fired over this flagrant dereliction of duty and violation of our constitutionally protected rights.

[akck]

Looks like a court challenge to me.

[bortstc37]

i can think of dozens of good reasons to keep guns off of campuses, but only one good reason to bring one (startled moose).

why the big uproar? if i were a student, i wouldn't wanna carry any extra weight on top of all the textbooks anyways.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by bortstc37

i can think of dozens of good reasons to keep guns off of campuses, but only one good reason to bring one (startled moose).

why the big uproar? if i were a student, i wouldn't wanna carry any extra weight on top of all the textbooks anyways.

Are you serious? We have a government entity who has blatantly ignored the State Constitution and State law and violated our rights for more than a decade and all you can say is "why the big uproar?"

If government expects citizens to abide by the law, then citizens should expect government to abide by those very same laws. What is the point of having a State Constitution if the State (or entities of the State) can ignore it whenever they feel like it?

Seriously, you need to learn the limitations of your government and stop taking your constitutionally protected rights for granted.

[tigre79]

Originally Posted by bortstc37

i can think of dozens of good reasons to keep guns off of campuses, but only one good reason to bring one (startled moose).

why the big uproar? if i were a student, i wouldn't wanna carry any extra weight on top of all the textbooks anyways.

I'm sure lots of people can think of good reasons to infringe on other people's rights (or allow the government to in their stead), but that doesn't mean they can. Constitutional rights don't evaporate just because you're on a college campus. We're not talking about kids here, these are adult citizens who are being taught that the state constitution doesn't apply to them.

[Moose Whisperer]

Originally Posted by bortstc37

(startled moose).

What?

[bortstc37]

well, they could always make an amendment to have college campuses be an exception. then the constitution would not be violated.

as a gun owner, i would not be the least bit offended if ua police told me not to bring guns on campus. i would understand. but then again, i would have no reason to take one in the first place.

would you be pissed off if you weren't allowed to take a handgun into a state courtroom? that's still a political subdivision of the state. what about the state assembly?

[RayinAK]

As far as I know, I can have a firearm in my truck or car while at the University, but not in the classroom. If I take it to the classroom, then security escorts me out of the classroom to my car so I can store it there. At least that's what I remember of UAF, but don't know about Anchorage. Now, the School District prohibits firearms in the school grounds, so if a student stores a gun in his car and someone finds out, the school calls the police.

[tigre79]

Originally Posted by RayinAK

As far as I know, I can have a firearm in my truck or car while at the University, but not in the classroom. If I take it to the classroom, then security escorts me out of the classroom to my car so I can store it there. At least that's what I remember of UAF, but don't know about Anchorage. Now, the School District prohibits firearms in the school grounds, so if a student stores a gun in his car and someone finds out, the school calls the police.

Wow, down here if someone was seen on campus with a gun they'd probably call the SWAT team. It's technically legal to have a gun in your car on campus, but the campus police don't seem to think so and police make the laws in many cases.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by RayinAK

As far as I know, I can have a firearm in my truck or car while at the University, but not in the classroom. If I take it to the classroom, then security escorts me out of the classroom to my car so I can store it there. At least that's what I remember of UAF, but don't know about Anchorage. Now, the School District prohibits firearms in the school grounds, so if a student stores a gun in his car and someone finds out, the school calls the police.

All firearms are "prohibited on the property of the university", it doesn't matter if they are in your vehicle, on your person, or anywhere else. If your firearm is on UA property, you can be cited for violating UA regulations. Even if you are not a student and merely driving through the campus with a firearm, you can still be cited.

This policy applies to all UA campuses throughout the State, including the Fairbanks campus.