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Old 09-02-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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This heat map for the USA was posted in the Texas forum on City Data. It is for the month of August, 2011.

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Old 09-02-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: ABQ, NM
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This heat map for the USA was posted in the Texas forum on City Data. It is for the month of August, 2011.
What is it a map of? Departure from the normal average? Which average? Highs? Lows? Overall temperature?
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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What is it a map of? Departure from the normal average? Which average? Highs? Lows? Overall temperature?
It is a map of the US.

It shows the month's temperature deviation from the 30-year averages.
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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Surprisingly strong correlation to the location of oil and gas wells in the affected region.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: ABQ, NM
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It is a map of the US.

It shows the month's temperature deviation from the 30-year averages.
Which temperature? Day-time, or overall? Are we talking degrees F, or degrees C? Why does this map have no legend? Who compiled the data, both the average temperature and the current years' numbers?
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Which temperature? Day-time, or overall?
I don't know for sure. I assume that it is the average daily temperature taken
over the entire 31 days in August. At least that is how I normally understand it.

I don't know the level of granularity, but it would be trivial to record the temperature every
second for all 2,678,400 seconds in the month of August and come up with an average.
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Are we talking degrees F, or degrees C?
Based on how much higher temperatures have been in Albuquerque, my assumption would be Fahrenheit.
If it were Centigrade, then the color marked in red would be about 11 deg F warmer and although it has
been warm, it has not been that much warmer.
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Why does this map have no legend?
Because it was posted only as a jpeg image from the original article.
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Who compiled the data, both the average temperature and the current years' numbers?
The High Plains Regional Climate Center.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: ABQ, NM
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I don't know for sure. I assume that it is the average daily temperature taken
over the entire 31 days in August. At least that is how I normally understand it.

I don't know the level of granularity, but it would be trivial to record the temperature every
second for all 2,678,400 seconds in the month of August and come up with an average.
That's not how average temperatures (overall, not just high or low) are calculated, but I am impressed that you took the few minutes to figure out how many seconds there were in August.

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Based on how much higher temperatures have been in Albuquerque, my assumption would be Fahrenheit.
If it were Centigrade, then the color marked in red would be about 11 deg F warmer and although it has
been warm, it has not been that much warmer.
Ha! good point.

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Because it was posted only as a jpeg image from the original article.
The High Plains Regional Climate Center.
Which may be why it is a good idea to include the legend as part of the picture...
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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That's not how average temperatures (overall, not just high or low) are calculated,
Now you have piqued my curiosity.

How are average temperatures calculated then?

Remember: This may be reviewed by mrgoodwx at some point.
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Which may be why it is a good idea to include the legend as part of the picture...
You are correct. It was not a good idea to post it without the legend.

Note that I did not post that image. Also note that joqua was
just posting something that they found on the Texas forum.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Looks like the Good Lord was punishing all the global warming deniers. They hail from those parts (Texas, I mean).
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Old 09-02-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Looks like the Good Lord was punishing all the global warming deniers.
Remember last winter when the "deniers" were wandering through the snow after the
blizzard(s) saying "Looks like the Good Lord was punishing all the global warming believers?"

I remember when Al "pay attention to me" Gore was still VP and Washington D.C. was
having a terrible heat wave waving his arms saying "What more proof do you need?"

Heat waves and cold snaps and new record highs are not proof of anything.

Global warming is a trend in average temperatures taken at all points on the
globe at all times of the year and at all times of the day - that is increasing.

It does not mean that everywhere is getting warmer, but that the average
of the averages - taken globally is increasing over time.

Even as the world heats up, some places will probably actually cool down
due to changes in weather ( weather, not climate ).

Had there been measuring devices and people available to operating them, you
could have probably created a map like this from one of the months during the
many years while the Pleistocene ice sheets were forming. Just like now, it wouldn't
have meant anything other than it was warmer than average for a month in Texas.

I just wanted to point that out.

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