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Old 02-02-2009, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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It was declassified because it's composition is identical to all the other objects in the Kuiper Belt, where short period comets come from (like Halley's comet.) They already found another object out there bigger than Pluto, so the choice was to include the new thing as another planet (and probably eventually end up with several hundred planets) or get rid of it. They chose getting rid of it because it's behavior is so weird compared to all the other planets (orbit out of the plane of the solar system, crosses orbits with Neptune, moon is half it's size, Pluto itself is smaller than several moons).
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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It will always be a plant to me. I was taught in school that it was a planet. That is good enough for me.
I LOVE living in a state that knows Pluto is still a planet.

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Old 02-02-2009, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Tim Rankin, in confusion said:

> ... I'm not sure for the exact reasons it was de-listed as a
> planet, but I remember the decision to do so was controversial.

I think a lot of it was that bit where it became the 8th planet for
a number of years and then crossed back outside of Neptune's orbit.

Personally, I think it was all a plot by the Neptune Society.

Sneaky buggers.
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Default Pluto, New Mexico and Clyde

When I was attending NMSU in Las Cruces, I took a first year Astronomy course. One day, during the course of the semester, my buddy and I found ourselves having to see the instructor. We had missed a class due to 'research' that had kept us out late in Juarez the night before. On our way in to give our mea culpas before our instructor, we passed an open door. The office beyond was lit by a dust glowing shaft of light, and impossibly filled with old texts, literally from floor to ceiling. At the center was a massive desk covered in stacks of additional books and papers. Sitting at the desk, quietly working was an old gentleman who seemed fairly engrossed in what he was going about. We repented before our instructor and picked up our 'catch up' assignments and I couldn't help but ask about the gentleman in the room. She said "Oh, that's Clyde. He discovered Pluto. Ask him if he's not busy, and you can talk to him about it.".

As it turned out, he was busy that day, but he remembered me and my interest a while later when we crossed paths and ending up signing my astronomy text near the section describing his discovery. He also discovered a bunch of asteroids and stayed in 'Cruces after he retired. He passed away there and when I heard the news about NM fighting to re-instate Pluto's status, I immediately thought of the honorable nod it would give to Clyde W. Tombaugh, discoverer of planet X (Pluto) and in the end...a New Mexican.

A big part of the reclassification had to due with discoveries of additional objects in the same size range and region of space. Their composition more closely resembled comets than planets.
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Old 02-02-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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Default Little Pluto

It was demoted to a dwarf planet because it is smaller than previously thought, about the size of the Moon. Some of the other planets' moons are bigger than Pluto. The reclassification sorta sticks in my craw too, but I understand the logic.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Yeah, I understand the logic too - I keep having to tell my "inner-Spock" to go back to his room. The whole line between planets & moons is so blurred anyway. Anyway, I just hope Neptune and Pluto can work out their [orbital] problems. p.s. Nice story above, Zia.
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The whole line between planets & moons is so blurred anyway.
How is the line between planets and moons blurred? I was under the impression that a moon orbited a planet. Unless you're saying that planets should technically be "moons" of their star.

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A big part of the reclassification had to due with discoveries of additional objects in the same size range and region of space. Their composition more closely resembled comets than planets.
Rather, things in the Kuiper Belt (or Oort Cloud) become comets when they whack into something else out there and start falling inwards toward the sun. And some of them settle down as asteroids once they've gotten a sooty enough coating to prevent the sun from cooking off any more of their surface.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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ziaAirmac --

WOW! I LOVED your story about Clyde Tombaugh!!!!

That is really SO COOL.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:11 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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ziaAirma:

Thanks for that!

Rich
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:08 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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when I heard the news about NM fighting to re-instate Pluto's status, I immediately thought of the honorable nod it would give to Clyde W. Tombaugh, discoverer of planet X (Pluto) and in the end...a New Mexican.

Good enough for me. Pluto is still a planet in my book!

And I like the idea that the NM legislature did something positively controversial for a change
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