Home Solar Panel Installation

[N8!]

Aside from that, solar's peak generation time and PNM's peak demad times don't overlap really.

So, solar generation isn't going to ever replace PNM (until there is a cost effective way to store electrical power in a meaningful quantity).

[mortimer]

Originally Posted by Zoidberg

Probably just fine, particularly if they could pick which 50%.

I really don't get the drive to eliminate PNM from the equation.

If everybody could put solar panels on their roof for a couple thousand dollarrs, in order to avoid having to install large storage systems, it would be
much simpler to just have a connection to the utility to provide power when the panels do not. PNM is not evil, it is just a business supplying a need.

People like to think that the utility is evil because they shut off power to people who don't pay their bills, but that is a rational response to a
deadbeat customer. << OR >> They somehow feel entitled to use 3,000 - 4,000 kWh or more but feel like a bill over $100 is unreasonable.

If it ever became possible to have photovoltaic solar on the roof for just a few thousand, then it would be reasonable to be
on the grid for a fee plus pay for your peaking power plus get paid for any excess you send the other way ( you pay the net ).

People that don't like the utility are just whiney, entitled, spoiled little children ( who use too much power ).

Originally Posted by N8!

So, solar generation isn't going to ever replace PNM (until there is a cost effective way to store electrical power in a meaningful quantity).

Note that such a "meaningful quantity" would be a huge and dangerous quantity of stored energy. It's not like it would be this
benign, inert, lump of something that you could tap later like storing the water from your roof. It would have to be gobs of electrons -
just ready to go or something like a flywheel that if if were to fail, would have the energy to slice right through your house.

Storing enough energy to power a TV or something for a while is one thing. Whole house power storage would be irresponsible.

[Zoidberg]

Originally Posted by mortimer

If it ever became possible to have photovoltaic solar on the roof for just a few thousand, then it would be reasonable to be
on the grid for a fee plus pay for your peaking power plus get paid for any excess you send the other way ( you pay the net ).

It's possible now.

Note that such a "meaningful quantity" would be a huge and dangerous quantity of stored energy. It's not like it would be this
benign, inert, lump of something that you could tap later like storing the water from your roof. It would have to be gobs of electrons -
just ready to go or something like a flywheel that if if were to fail, would have the energy to slice right through your house.

Storing enough energy to power a TV or something for a while is one thing. Whole house power storage would be irresponsible.

Gonna have to disagree here. A decent-sized battery bank (say 96V, 200Ah) coupled in with the right kind of charge controller/inverter setup should provide the low-light power needs of most residences, grid available or not. Properly installed, it should also be very safe. We (as society) have 100+ years old experience putting batteries in power systems and except for cost, weight, longevity, and idiotproofing, we've got them pretty well perfected.

[mortimer]

Originally Posted by Zoidberg

Gonna have to disagree here.

I don't think you are.

Originally Posted by Zoidberg

A decent-sized battery bank (say 96V, 200Ah) coupled in with the right kind of charge controller/inverter setup should provide the low-light power needs of most residences, ...

I was not referring to "low-light power needs," but of the original ...

Originally Posted by N8!

... store electrical power in a meaningful quantity). ...

... statement.

I'm talking about having storage for stuff like using your oven, running your air conditioner for
extended periods of time. That kind of energy storage would be prohibitive and dangerous.
You are talking about storing 20 kWh. I was talking about storing, maybe 1,000 kWh.

I don't know what N8!'s definition of "meaningful" comes out to be.

Again, why bother? If the sun disappears behind a cloud, I can use "the cloud" to power my house.
It's funny that in the digital world, we are actively trying to connect and in the power world, many are trying to do the opposite.

( not funny, "ha ha," btw )