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Old 07-14-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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You didn't read the article.

The best thing about China is that they help developing countries without strings attached, unlike Western nations

China gets the total control of this canal for 1116 years. THAT IS A BIG STRING ATTACHED!
China is building the thing from scratch and paying for everything. That is not a string attached.

Strings attached is what the US does, which is offer help but the country has to adopt a set of policies that in the long run benefits the US more than those countries. The US even conditions the help on the basis of who governs what country, as if that's anyone's business other than the people that live in those countries.

That's why African countries are preferring Chinese investments over Western ones. The Chinese simply do business, they don't stick their noses in local political/cultural affairs.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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The new canal to be built by China will create a Colony for China.





gives the Chinese construction company 116 years of absolute dominion over the lake and seven currently protected areas.


The canal company is believed by many to be a proxy for the Chinese government, which basically would create a colony in Central America.


A.M. Costa Rica your daily English-language news source Monday through Friday
Can you please post a link to the actual article and not just the webpage for the news agency. I couldn't find any article and finally just looked at other sites.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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That's why African countries are preferring Chinese investments over Western ones. .

Yes of course they do, so Sudan can engage in whole sale massacre and rape of people in Darfur and China supports them.

Some governments need strings attached.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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Still it is none of your business, just let Central American countries be.

And when tens of thousands of them illegally flock to the USA does it become your business then?
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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Are they really? Hmmmm at least China hasn´t invaded us, nor has it imposed its political ways on us. I am Panamanian btw.

Panama is a wealthy country and without the Canal it wouldn't be. Look at Nicaragua as an example. Remember to tell the Americans THANKS!

BTW they invaded Colombia and created Panama. Do you wish to be re-integrated into Colombia.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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I thought this too when I read about their businesses in African countries and HOW they are
But getting back to the quote, if people pay attention and read, they will see that the Chinese ARE taking over in an extremely subtle level.

I suspect that NONE of these people, who praise China, would want to live in a Chinese controlled world.

Here is the rub. A gov't agency in the USA builds a shoddy building, it collapses, and people are killed. Compensation will be paid, after protests.

Try that in China a jail cell is waiting for you.

As bad as the West might be in 2015 China is WORSE. When US companies invest jobs are created for locals , and the government can even demand that these local jobs include higher level slots.

When the Chinese build, even the people bringing water for the laborers WILL BE CHINESE.

Now how is a country with high unemployment helped? Where are the local benefits?
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:42 PM
 
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Read thearticle. This canal will be bigger and handle ships bigger than Panama can handle.

No one has even mentioned as to what will happen to fresh water for both Nic and Costa Rica. They share the same aquifer and real danger of salt water destroying it.

Destroying local environments is of no concern to China, or to Chinese companies. No pressure can be exerted on them, as will be the case for North American and European entities.

When the Chinese arrive, they bribe the local government officials, and then are allowed to do what ever they want.
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Old 07-14-2015, 07:53 PM
 
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Yes of course they do, so Sudan can engage in whole sale massacre and rape of people in Darfur and China supports them.

Some governments need strings attached.
No different than the U.S. supporting Pinochet in Chile. Let's not be naive both China and the big powers of each time have done their share of atrocities.
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Destroying local environments is of no concern to China, or to Chinese companies. No pressure can be exerted on them, as will be the case for North American and European entities.

When the Chinese arrive, they bribe the local government officials, and then are allowed to do what ever they want.
And in the case of Nicaraguan canal the government has already moved entire villages. Have you seen the article about the environmental effects on the local water bodies?
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:36 PM
 
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Can you please post a link to the actual article and not just the webpage for the news agency. I couldn't find any article and finally just looked at other sites.
Mattks: what versatile said is true, I go into another forum (Spanish speaking forum) and I regularly enter the Nicaraguan room and they have discussed everything he said, too bad you dont speak Spanish otherwise, I would have given you the address for that forum and the Nicaraguan room.
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