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Old 04-30-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Although it's not south america, look how mexico (ironically) treats their Guatemalan illegal immigrants

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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In Brazil the number of immigrants is too small. They are less than a million in a population of 200 million. Very few are Latin Americans.
In fact there are more Brazilians living in the United States, than foreigners of any nationality living in Brazil.

Main immigrants in Brazil are from:

Portugal 277.727
Japan 91.042
Italia 73.126
Spain 59.985
Bolivia 50.240 (There is a amount of illegals too, so the real po. is 3/4 times larger)
Argentina 42.202
China 35.953
Alemanha 29.224
USA 27.953
Uruguai 26.271
Chile 25.561
South Korea 19.341
France 18.011
Paraguay 15.626
Peru 15.459
Lebanon 14.965
UK 9.505
Holland 7.332
Switzerland 6.724
Haiti 6.050
This is just legal immigrants.

Just Sao Paulo metro are has half million of Bolivians, 17,000 Peruvians and 70,000 Paraguayans man!
Some areas of the city is like a New La Paz!


Grande São Paulo pode ter até 500 mil bolivianos | Vida e Cidadania | Gazeta do Povo
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Although it's not south america, look how mexico (ironically) treats their Guatemalan illegal immigrants
A lot of changes will be coming about in Latin America due to the lowering of the fertility rates. Mexico's fertility rate has dropped to 2.2, and the day will come you'll see an aging population in Mexico, like so much of the rest of the world, and when they reach that point, they'll have a lot more respect for the immigrants coming up from Central America.

Bolivia is still one of the bigger baby producers in South America, with a fertility rate of 3.3 or so, while Brazil's, Argentina's and Chile's fall below 2.0. These low fertility rate countries are going to need the immigrants to attend to their aging populations. A big win for Bolivia?
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Even with some exaggeration in the article, we can see cleary that slavory is alive!
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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A lot of changes will be coming about in Latin America due to the lowering of the fertility rates. Mexico's fertility rate has dropped to 2.2, and the day will come you'll see an aging population in Mexico, like so much of the rest of the world, and when they reach that point, they'll have a lot more respect for the immigrants coming up from Central America.

Bolivia is still one of the bigger baby producers in South America, with a fertility rate of 3.3 or so, while Brazil's, Argentina's and Chile's fall below 2.0. These low fertility rate countries are going to need the immigrants to attend to their aging populations. A big win for Bolivia?
Unfortunately Bolivians and Peruvian are treated very poorly in countries like Chile and Argentina, there's quite a bit of racism towards them there. I don't know how they are treated in Brazil.

Central Americans are mistreated by authorities and gangs in Mexico (a true travesty, and partly funded by the US), but not by the general population. There are quite a few Central Americans living in northern Mexico, some married to Mexicans. There are also many Mexican people who volunteer time working at soup kitchens for migrants, shelters for migrants, and even for programs trying to get legal rights for children who have traveled alone. I personally know these people.
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Miraflores
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Due to Peru having the fastest growing Economy in Latin America for the past 10 years or so, we are seeing migration from all over the world. As far as SA goes, in Lima, you are seeing many Brazilians,Chileans,Colombians,Argentinians,Venezu elans. Due to Lima's reputation as one of the world's food capitals the Venezuelans have showed up and are opening up Arepa places at an alarming rate.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:05 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Actually Peru's receipt of migrants from neighbouring countries is low compared to others in LatAm. Only recently has there been a small migration to Peru from other LatAm countries and its usually limited to Lima and insignificant when you compare it to the movement present outside of Peru.

All the migrants from other LatAm countries added together don't even compare to the amount of Venezuelans currently in Colombia for example.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Due to Peru having the fastest growing Economy in Latin America for the past 10 years or so, we are seeing migration from all over the world. As far as SA goes, in Lima, you are seeing many Brazilians,Chileans,Colombians,Argentinians,Venezu elans. Due to Lima's reputation as one of the world's food capitals the Venezuelans have showed up and are opening up Arepa places at an alarming rate.
Yes in Lima I encountered many areperias and of course many Colombian and Argentinian food places too

After a trip to Peru I admit moving there seems like a really amazing idea
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Unfortunately Bolivians and Peruvian are treated very poorly in countries like Chile and Argentina, there's quite a bit of racism towards them there. I don't know how they are treated in Brazil.

Central Americans are mistreated by authorities and gangs in Mexico (a true travesty, and partly funded by the US), but not by the general population. There are quite a few Central Americans living in northern Mexico, some married to Mexicans. There are also many Mexican people who volunteer time working at soup kitchens for migrants, shelters for migrants, and even for programs trying to get legal rights for children who have traveled alone. I personally know these people.
There's always been prejudice against the more Indian-flavored Latino's, and even in Mexico, the prejudice will never end against their own indigenous population. As they say, in all Latin American countries, the whiter the skin, the further you go!

I'm guessing that the more Indian-flavored Mayan Guatemalans would qualify for more mistreatment, and being that 2/3rds of Bolivians are Indian-flavored, that's a recipe for mistreatment alone.

Lots of prejudice in Peru and Ecuador against their own indigenous population.

When I was visiting Ecuador in 2006, and a tour guide commenting on all the Venezuelans coming into Ecuador to escape Chavez, I asked her: To me, so many Latino's all look alike, how can you tell a Venezuelan from an Ecuadoran?

Answer: The accent gives them away!
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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When I was visiting Ecuador in 2006, and a tour guide commenting on all the Venezuelans coming into Ecuador to escape Chavez, I asked her: To me, so many Latino's all look alike, how can you tell a Venezuelan from an Ecuadoran?
really? how come? native tribes look very different from one place to another. And the "mestizaje" process was different in every place. Sometimes I can even tell if someone is from certain region of my country just by his/her facial features.
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