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Salsa? Does anyone remember Soca, from the Caribbean? Is that still around, or has it evolved into something else?
Soca is not going anywhere .... Trinidad has a Carnival each year and their local Soca and calypso artists need to pump out new hits for the bands and crowds to have something to Jump up to. Party culture is huge there and a party is our new music .... Would not be acceptable. When I was in Panama a few years ago I noticed they were playing many Spanish remakes of older popular soca and calypso songs at the resort I was staying at !
Just so I understand, when we say SALSA, we are by no means talking about Samba, right?
No Samba is a Brazilian musical genre and dance style. It's what you usually hear when the media talks about Brazil or the Carnival in Rio. Salsa is Cuban. I'm no music expert but to me Samba sounds more African.
As to "Tropical music"..a quite laughable Mexican invention. As Mexicans traditionally love Cuban styles and traditional Cuban music, bolero, danzón, cha cha cha - some that disappeared from Cuba, etc, etc, they don't like (it seems) to call it Cuban music. Mexican also sport some of the best Bolero composers, etc.
Nobody says that Corridos are not Mexican, and there are composers of corridos everywhere.
If someone can come up with a good rhythm or a good song I don't care where it comes from or if the style is from their country. Some Cubans artists are awful too. Look up Willy Chirino, one of the worst artists in human history. LOL
I've always heard some music called tropical. I don't know if Mexicans were the ones who came up with that definition.
If someone can come up with a good rhythm or a good song I don't care where it comes from or if the style is from their country. Some Cubans artists are awful too. Look up Willy Chirino, one of the worst artists in human history. LOL
I've always heard some music called tropical. I don't know if Mexicans were the ones who came up with that definition.
The first time I heard Tropical Musical was an article about Celia Cruz and Olga Guillot written by some sort of Mexican nationalist media. Sure, they invented that.
Sure, awful Cuban artists. Willy Chirino is some sort of anti-communist troba, directed for a specific target. Songs like The Jinetera and Ya viene llegando are specifically for Cuban markets.
Salsa is basically Cuban music played by a myriad of nationalities.
Are all those new styles "Salsa"? Probably, in a loose way.
There's another possible origin of the word "salsa" in a radio contest back in the 20's.
It's just as Pasodobles, I've heard pasodobles from manu nationalities, boleros....musical genres.
The first time I heard Tropical Musical was an article about Celia Cruz and Olga Guillot written by some sort of Mexican nationalist media. Sure, they invented that.
Sure, awful Cuban artists. Willy Chirino is some sort of anti-communist troba, directed for a specific target. Songs like The Jinetera and Ya viene llegando are specifically for Cuban markets.
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How is this for anti-communist? LOL, This was clearly for the Miami markets.
The first time I heard Tropical Musical was an article about Celia Cruz and Olga Guillot written by some sort of Mexican nationalist media. Sure, they invented that.
Sure, awful Cuban artists. Willy Chirino is some sort of anti-communist troba, directed for a specific target. Songs like The Jinetera and Ya viene llegando are specifically for Cuban markets.
Salsa is basically Cuban music played by a myriad of nationalities.
Are all those new styles "Salsa"? Probably, in a loose way.
There's another possible origin of the word "salsa" in a radio contest back in the 20's.
It's just as Pasodobles, I've heard pasodobles from manu nationalities, boleros....musical genres.
In Mexico musica tropical is an umbrella term that includes different types of music. It became popular in the 60' and 70's with the popularity of Acapulco/coastal beach culture. It includes cumbia, boleros, Cuban music, but even Honduran music like the classic 'sopa de caracol.' I guess now since the 90's it includes salsa, merengue and bachata.
There's also a style of music called 'tropical' but it sounds more like Peruvian style cumbia and seems to have more Central Americans influence as well.
Salsa music has been in the doldrums for a very long time now. I remember a lot of Puerto Ricans I knew online, either in forums or sometimes also via email correspondence, declaring it dead even a decade ago. Not to mention articles like this:
I do like some of the salsa choke I've heard, and there are still stray songs that I like (often by veterans), but for me they have become fewer and farther apart.
I think it can difficult for new bands doing something a bit different to find support. I wish Bannakumbi had gotten more attention:
The Cuban timba scene remains pretty vibrant, but I have just never clicked with timba. I am more of a Puerto Rican/Colombian/Old school NYC (but not much of its more recent output) salsa lover.
Not going to get into the whole salsa or isn't basically Cuban, argument, but I don't share the view that is. The Puerto Rican contribution in particular is massive, and whatever the notated music may say, I don't hear Cuban music that sounds like most of my favorite Puerto Rican salsa. It's like saying Led Zepplin is just ripping off old blues guys.
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