What is the future of socialism in South America (honestly ) (life, jobs)

[etek]

Could I get unbiased opinions. I know a person is committed to a particular line of political thought, but could we weigh the pros and cons of opposing opinions?
The pros of socialism appear to be reducing inequality. To that conservatives would reply that it means making everybody equally poor. There has to be a list of pros and cons to both. We can't have unlimited economic growth anyway because of the limited resources of the Earth. Also, I am thinking that even in high tech societies there will be massive unemployment due to a high degree of automation and advanced artificial intelligence, making even many white collar jobs obsolete. In that event, the government is going to have to cut checks for people who simply cannot be employed. That is a kind of socialism, paying people for doing nothing; but you have to because people have to eat and sleep somewhere. We don't have pure capitalism anyway, it is mixed with aspects of the welfare state.

[whogoesthere]

It will die down and come back again, rinse and repeat. Nothing happens in a vacuum. The conditions that create room for socialism still exist so it will always be an option. Socialism exists because other -ism's have failed. It will always struggle to be viable due to either its own inherent deficiencies or the extremely powerful interests that line up against its success.

[etek]

Originally Posted by whogoesthere

It will die down and come back again, rinse and repeat. Nothing happens in a vacuum. The conditions that create room for socialism still exist so it will always be an option. Socialism exists because other -ism's have failed. It will always struggle to be viable due to either its own inherent deficiencies or the extremely powerful interests that line up against its success.

Good point. Socialism grew very rapidly when the conditions were more unequal, they are still unequal to a large extent in South America. As things get more equal, more people move up into the middle class; maybe they forget how much socialism helped them when they were struggling daily living and want to protect their money and think that they made it now and want to be like the big boys. The thing is, the middle class will be sacrificed in a minute by the big boys if they can make money at it.

I am trying to figure this out as I go along, since I am not a theorist on the subject, but it interests me.

I am also trying to compare socialism in Latin America and socialism in Europe.

Socialism came easier in Europe , especially in Northern Europe because more people there have an inherent sense of fairness, that is no one should be very rich or poor.

I think that in Latin America people have to struggle more. Look at Colombia, the struggle was an armed struggle for a long time because labor organizer get killed in Colombia even today. It is a harder fight in Latin America. But that's life.