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Old 10-15-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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Pinochet, Thatcher & Reagan please resurrect in Venezuela....!
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Old 10-15-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Pinochet


The other two were really disgusting too, but at least they were democratically elected.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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Pinochet, Thatcher & Reagan please resurrect in Venezuela....!
what would be the good of replacing one megalomaniac dictator/authoritarian guy with another?
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Now it is fair - no rich, no middle class either. Everyone is equally poor and depressed.
It is true that Venezuela's middle class is going to hell in a hand basket, but the rich... well...

"Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, the late president's second-oldest daughter, holds assets in American and Andorran banks totaling almost $4.2billion, Diario las Americas reports."

"Alejandro Andrade, who served as Venezuela’s treasury minister from 2007 to 2010 and was reportedly a close associate of Chavez, was discovered to have $11.2billion in his name sitting in HSBC accounts in Switzerland, according to documents leaked by whistleblower Hervé Falciani."


Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman

Who knew that Socialism was so lucrative!
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:50 AM
 
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what would be the good of replacing one megalomaniac dictator/authoritarian guy with another?
Chile got back on track and reestablished democracy with pinochet. Precisely what Venezuela needs
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:54 AM
 
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The other two were really disgusting too, but at least they were democratically elected.
You care more about left wing principles than actual results.
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:13 AM
 
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You care more about left wing principles than actual results.
No, I care more about Human Rights.
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Old 10-16-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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It is true that Venezuela's middle class is going to hell in a hand basket, but the rich... well...

"Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, the late president's second-oldest daughter, holds assets in American and Andorran banks totaling almost $4.2billion, Diario las Americas reports."

"Alejandro Andrade, who served as Venezuela’s treasury minister from 2007 to 2010 and was reportedly a close associate of Chavez, was discovered to have $11.2billion in his name sitting in HSBC accounts in Switzerland, according to documents leaked by whistleblower Hervé Falciani."


Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman

Who knew that Socialism was so lucrative!
But socialism is fair.
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Extremes are bad either way.

In Latin America it doesn't matter who is president. They make themselves and his friends richer

The situation was horrible in Venezuela before Chavez was elected. People seem to forget that. However what did Chavez do? Sure he threw some bones to the poor people but his friends are filthy rich now with homes in Miami, NY and Europe. The level of corruption is the same, the only thing that changed is that wealth was transferred from one party to another.

I also find it funny how Venezuelans cross the border to buy groceries in Colombia but they go back to Venezuela because they don't want to lose their jobs or their benefits. Obviously the situation can't be that bad if they are going back to Venezuela. They only want to move to the US because the US is a rich country, not because it is not socialist, otherwise they would be moving in droves to Colombia.

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Old 10-16-2016, 01:33 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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Lose their jobs and benefits? What jobs and what benefits might those be?

They are more likely returning because they want food but also don't want themselves or their children to live on the streets of the other countries. Also they do not want to leave their family. They also still love their country and want to stay to try to help it out of this disaster and be there to help rebuild it.

The problem however is that it maybe too late to rebuild it. It will take decades to undue to damage that Chavez and company have wrought. It's not just the economy that has to be rebuilt but also the complete political structure which runs from it's democratic institutions, eradication of corruption, the rule of law, riding the country of it's criminal cartels, grotesque socio/economic inequality, and violence.

All of the above will help rebuilt the democratic foundations which be necessary to also rebuild the entire social, health, and education systems.
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