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Old 12-18-2017, 04:04 AM
 
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A Familial Relation? Spain and Latin America in the 21st Century – COHA

More on the details of Spanish corporate involvement in Latin America. It’s substantial, especially in certain sectors. As is direct Spanish investment in the region.
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:04 AM
 
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https://www.google.es/amp/s/seekinga...alism-in-latam

Santander is the euro zone’s largest bank, in large part due to Latin American holdings. Note the Wall Street investor refers to the relationship as neocolonialism.
Oh so because HSBC is in Spain or American Express in the UK that must mean neo-colonialism. Please your arguments are poor.
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:09 AM
 
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Answer my question instead of going off on your silly tangents.

Are the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organisation, Quacquarelli Symonds, Forbes Global, the International Ranking Expert Group, etc. illegitimate sources?
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Old 12-18-2017, 04:25 AM
 
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A Familial Relation? Spain and Latin America in the 21st Century – COHA

More on the details of Spanish corporate involvement in Latin America. It’s substantial, especially in certain sectors. As is direct Spanish investment in the region.
Oh look, the article you site as a "legitimate source" says the following in the second paragraph...

- "Although Spain’s economy and political influence is dwarfed by those of the United States, Britain, and China, Spain commits proportionally more resources to Latin America than any major power in diplomacy, foreign aid, investment, and cultural activities." -


And why does it commit proportionally more resources? Because Spain needs Latin America more than Latin America needs it. Even Britain and China who have historically been on the sidelines eclipse Spain - that Britain huh? Of course it could never provide any benefit to any of the island nations in the recent past/present.
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:05 AM
 
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Oh look, the article you site as a "legitimate source" says the following in the second paragraph...

- "Although Spain’s economy and political influence is dwarfed by those of the United States, Britain, and China, Spain commits proportionally more resources to Latin America than any major power in diplomacy, foreign aid, investment, and cultural activities." -


And why does it commit proportionally more resources? Because Spain needs Latin America more than Latin America needs it. Even Britain and China who have historically been on the sidelines eclipse Spain - that Britain huh? Of course it could never provide any benefit to any of the island nations in the recent past/present.
So all that means is multiple nations have various neocolonial interests in Latin America. The US, China, Britain, and Spain all are profiting enormously off their interests and investments.

China is more into directly buying natural resources in Latin America. The US and Britain also had their natural resources interests in Latin America. Spain concentrates on banking, telecommunications, and certain services. Though Spain certain has energy interests and investments in Latin America.
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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Spanish companies used their Latin American investments and their returns in them to spread to other parts of Europe and the USA. One can now find BBVA and Santander through Europe. Spanish construction firms that made money in Latin America now also expanded through out the world.

Latin American companies tend to be either regional or local. They certainly export to the rest of the world, but you won’t find any substantial Latin American corporate presence in Europe, Asia, Africa, or truthfully in the US for that matter. Americans and Europeans don’t order service from America Moviles.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Spanish construction firms that made money in Latin America now also expanded through out the world.
CEMEX is the 2nd largest building materials company in the world with a presence in 50 countries around the world.

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Americans and Europeans don’t order service from America Moviles
Oh really? So I suppose Mexico is now a neo-colonial power in Eastern & Central Europe with America Movil's aquisitions in those regions.

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So all that means is multiple nations have various neocolonial interests in Latin America. The US, China, Britain,
China & Britain weren't old colonial powers in Latin America all of a sudden they're neo-colonial powers for buying resources from multinational regional companies? Hmmm
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Old 12-19-2017, 04:21 AM
 
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Independence is always better, but the nation has to take responsibility for their own economy, especially if those that stole so much, will not help your infrastructure get a decent start. Government corruption got to go also.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Independence is always better, but the nation has to take responsibility for their own economy, especially if those that stole so much, will not help your infrastructure get a decent start. Government corruption got to go also.
Short, sweet and on point.
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Old 12-19-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Independence is always better, but the nation has to take responsibility for their own economy, especially if those that stole so much, will not help your infrastructure get a decent start. Government corruption got to go also.
I agree, though that's not exactly what I take the OP to be asking.


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It seems that independent Caribbean nations such as Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, to name a few, are high in crime and have terrible infrastructure.

Would you say the days of British colonial rule were better?

Does the majority of the population of those countries prefer the countries stay independent, or go back to the United Kingdom?
Assuming that the independent Caribbean nations such as those named here are indeed high in crime and have terrible infrastructure as stated, would the people of those countries prefer to be under British rule? I'm assuming here that the underlying assumption is that these places had less crime and better infrastructure under British rule, which is something about which I am not knowledgeable.

In other words, I'm picturing the original question to be "Would you rather be independent but have high crime and terrible infrastructure, or would you rather be colonized but have lower crime and better infrastructure?" (I take it as a given that nearly everyone would prefer to be independent and have low crime and good infrastructure, but that's not what was being asked.)
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