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Old 07-28-2022, 10:55 AM
 
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/can't we all just get along lol.







[LEFT]Fernando Bustos Gorozpe was sitting with friends in a cafe here when he realized that — once again — they were outnumbered.

“We’re the only brown people,” said Bustos, a 38-year-old writer and university professor. “We’re the only people speaking Spanish except the waiters.”

Mexico has long been the top foreign travel destination for Americans, its bountiful beaches and picturesque pueblos luring tens of millions of U.S. visitors annually. But in recent years, a growing number of tourists and remote workers — hailing from Brooklyn, N.Y., Silicon Valley and points in between — have flooded the nation’s capital and left a scent of new-wave imperialism.

The influx, which has accelerated since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and is likely to continue as inflation rises, is transforming some of the city’s most treasured neighborhoods into expat enclaves.

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In leafy, walkable quarters such as Roma, Condesa, Centro and Juarez, rents are soaring as Americans and other foreigners snap up houses and landlords trade long-term renters for travelers willing to pay more on Airbnb. Taquerias, corner stores and fondas — small, family-run lunch spots — are being replaced by Pilates studios, co-working spaces and sleek cafes advertising oat-milk lattes and avocado toast.

And English — well, it’s everywhere: ringing out at supermarkets, natural wine bars and fitness classes in the park.

At Lardo, a Mediterranean restaurant where, on any given night, three-quarters of the tables are filled with foreigners, a Mexican man in a well-cut suit recently took a seat at the bar, gazed at the English-language menu before him and sighed as he handed it back: “A menu in Spanish, please.”

Some chilangos, as locals are known, are fed up.

Recently, expletive-laced posters appeared around town.

“New to the city? Working remotely?” they read in English. “You’re a f—ing plague and the locals f—ing hate you. Leave.”
12ft | Americans are flooding Mexico City. Some want them gone - Los Angeles Times[LEFT][/LEFT]
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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Why they coming to Mexico City?
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:49 PM
 
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They like the vibe plus prices?

Whenever locals feel outnumbered there is going to be a similar reaction, regardless where it is.
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Old 07-28-2022, 03:22 PM
 
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/can't we all just get along lol.







[LEFT]Fernando Bustos Gorozpe was sitting with friends in a cafe here when he realized that — once again — they were outnumbered.

“We’re the only brown people,” said Bustos, a 38-year-old writer and university professor. “We’re the only people speaking Spanish except the waiters.”

Mexico has long been the top foreign travel destination for Americans, its bountiful beaches and picturesque pueblos luring tens of millions of U.S. visitors annually. But in recent years, a growing number of tourists and remote workers — hailing from Brooklyn, N.Y., Silicon Valley and points in between — have flooded the nation’s capital and left a scent of new-wave imperialism.

The influx, which has accelerated since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic and is likely to continue as inflation rises, is transforming some of the city’s most treasured neighborhoods into expat enclaves.

[/LEFT][indent]In leafy, walkable quarters such as Roma, Condesa, Centro and Juarez, rents are soaring as Americans and other foreigners snap up houses and landlords trade long-term renters for travelers willing to pay more on Airbnb. Taquerias, corner stores and fondas — small, family-run lunch spots — are being replaced by Pilates studios, co-working spaces and sleek cafes advertising oat-milk lattes and avocado toast.
I don’t think the regular inhabitants of those neighborhoods are all that brown.
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Old 07-28-2022, 05:28 PM
 
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Whenever locals feel outnumbered there is going to be a similar reaction, regardless where it is.
That's almost a law of nature... Since thousands of years ago...
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Old 07-29-2022, 01:56 AM
 
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I don’t think the regular inhabitants of those neighborhoods are all that brown.
I've never been there, how about you?
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Old 07-29-2022, 11:01 AM
 
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Condesa really is overrun by foreigners these days. Roma Norte is heading that way. Thank YouTubers for it, its almost comical how all of them say "I was shocked by Mexico City" and its a video of the same exact places, neither of which is that big or that important to the city as a whole. There are perfectly nice areas just south of these where everything costs half as much and you will hear almost no English when you walk the streets.

This whole backlash is never going to amount to much because the city is just so huge. Its an easy thing for an activist or a politician to say there are too many rich expats there, but most Mexicans couldn't afford to live in these places in almost any condition. This line of thinking is like people in the LA area complaining there are way too many Asians living in Beverly Hills. Like it ever really matters for the 99% who could never afford to live there anyways.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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Condesa really is overrun by foreigners these days. Roma Norte is heading that way. Thank YouTubers for it, its almost comical how all of them say "I was shocked by Mexico City" and its a video of the same exact places, neither of which is that big or that important to the city as a whole. There are perfectly nice areas just south of these where everything costs half as much and you will hear almost no English when you walk the streets.

This whole backlash is never going to amount to much because the city is just so huge. Its an easy thing for an activist or a politician to say there are too many rich expats there, but most Mexicans couldn't afford to live in these places in almost any condition. This line of thinking is like people in the LA area complaining there are way too many Asians living in Beverly Hills. Like it ever really matters for the 99% who could never afford to live there anyways.
You read that City-Data members and luckers?

Now go and flood those areas too so prices can rise and match Condesa et al.

One of the most importants part of a secret (even if it's widely known by locals) is to keep it as a secret. Everyone doesn't need to know where a good life can be had for less or where locals go on vacation. There is a reason you don't know. Hint, hint: You are not a local.

I repeat, all areas with an abundance of middle class Mexicans don't need to be "discovered" by foreigners. The places they live, vacation, etc is for them. "Discovery" means Youtuber types will go there letting the world know of these places and then the foreign avalanche will happen with the increase in prices following close behind. Then middle class Mexicans are priced out and they will have to search for other places in their own country.

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Old 07-30-2022, 09:20 AM
 
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You read that City-Data members and luckers?

Now go and flood those areas too so prices can rise and match Condesa et al.

One of the most importants part of a secret (even if it's widely known by locals) is to keep it as a secret. Everyone doesn't need to know where a good life can be had for less or where locals go on vacation. There is a reason you don't know. Hint, hint: You are not a local.

I repeat, all areas with an abundance of middle class Mexicans don't need to be "discovered" by foreigners. The places they live, vacation, etc is for them. "Discovery" means Youtuber types will go there letting the world know of these places and then the foreign avalanche will happen with the increase in prices following close behind. Then middle class Mexicans are priced out and they will have to search for other places in their own country.
Hah! There are approximately 24 people on here that actually have been in Mexico City, my scientific conclusion. The rest just want to tell you how dangerous Mexico is because, you know, Fox News tells them its nothing but crime and people wanting to sneak into the US. Too many first time visitors seem genuinely shocked they haven't been robbed at gunpoint on their first day and the rest can't believe they haven't gotten food poisoning yet.

And trust me those areas to the south aren't cheap and have already been "discovered" but by Mexicans. They aren't hip enough to be expat enclaves and not cheap enough for the "artists" who will create the next YouTube sensation. I think I know where that next hotspot will be and went and walked around it last time I was there but to your point, I'll keep it to myself.
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Old 07-30-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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Good. I encourage people to walk all over Mexico and do whatever they want. Nobody should have to obey Mexican immigration laws - they refuse to obey ours. They even claim that it's "discrimination" to enforce immigration laws in the United States.

Americans should be able to live wherever they want in Mexico for however long they want, and do whatever they want.
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