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Old 07-04-2023, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Saskatoon - Saskatchewan, Canada
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Brazilian population was expected to start the decline by mid-century. It will be sooner, I suppose. No later than 2035-2040.

Brazilians basically gave up having children, the population is growing older quickly. That's the big deal. Cities still SEEM to be growing because of the number of new buildings. But there are more people living alone and couples without children, while decades ago there were 5, 7, 10 individuals living in the same house. More housing to fewer people. Soon this will change too, when the decline of the population will be more noticeable.

The migration is not so relevant. Few Brazilians move out of the country and few foreigners move to Brazil, comparing to the majority of others countries where migration is far more common.
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Old 07-04-2023, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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But there are more people living alone and couples without children, while decades ago there were 5, 7, 10 individuals living in the same house.
And there are more single mothers with just one child as well...
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:24 AM
 
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Brazilian population was expected to start the decline by mid-century. It will be sooner, I suppose. No later than 2035-2040.

Brazilians basically gave up having children, the population is growing older quickly. That's the big deal. Cities still SEEM to be growing because of the number of new buildings. But there are more people living alone and couples without children, while decades ago there were 5, 7, 10 individuals living in the same house. More housing to fewer people. Soon this will change too, when the decline of the population will be more noticeable.

The migration is not so relevant. Few Brazilians move out of the country and few foreigners move to Brazil, comparing to the majority of others countries where migration is far more common.
Brazil used to be the fifth most populous nation on Earth, right behind Indonesia. Now, it’s been overtaken by Pakistan and Nigeria.
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Old 07-07-2023, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Dayton OH
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I read that Brazil has received over 400,000 Venezuelans who fled their homeland in the past few years. I'm guessing they have become one of the largest groups of recent immigrants to Brazil - not sure if they intend on staying and integrating into Brazil, or if some will go back to VZ. I am guessing they are a mix of people with good job skills, and people without many skills. Hopefully they can contribute to Brazil's growth in some way over time.
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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I'm not surprise with the news. Brazil is a such horrible country to live i'm not surprise that this country walks to extinction.
The corruption, nepotism, and ignorance of the population will destroy this country
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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Old 07-08-2023, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Top 10 largest metro areas according to the 2022 Census:


1 - São Paulo - 20,744,087

2 - Rio de Janeiro - 12,022,110

3 - Belo Horizonte - 4,518,107

4 - Brasília - 4,465,006

5 - Porto Alegre - 4,318,013

6 - Fortaleza - 3,903,924

7 - Recife - 3,726,442

8 - Curitiba - 3,559,366

9 - Salvador - 3,413,481

10 - Campinas - 3,178,864
Brasilia is catching up to Belo Horizonte. I'm amazed how fast Brasilia has moved up the population rankings for both city and metro area over the last 20 years.
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Old 07-08-2023, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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I'm not surprise with the news. Brazil is a such horrible country to live i'm not surprise that this country walks to extinction.
The corruption, nepotism, and ignorance of the population will destroy this country
Exaggerating much? There are plenty of developed countries where the population isn't gowing and others are barely growing thanks to immigration.

Then there are countries that definitely are in worst shape than Brazil and they are going through a population boomalmost entirely due to births. I bet those countries would switch situations with Brazil if given the opportunity.
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Old 07-09-2023, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Brazil
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Exaggerating much? There are plenty of developed countries where the population isn't gowing and others are barely growing thanks to immigration.

Then there are countries that definitely are in worst shape than Brazil and they are going through a population boomalmost entirely due to births. I bet those countries would switch situations with Brazil if given the opportunity.

That is not a exaggeration that is the true. Brazil is a very depressive country to live. Today the birth rate in Brazil is one of the lowest in Latin America. In many Brazilian states the birth rate is below 1,50 children per woman and exist a good reason for this.
No matter how hard you work without powerful connections, you only get ****ty jobs. The nepotism in Brazil are scandalous for example in Brazilian companies the owners put their sons, friends, fiances in the management positions and power without any legitim selection or meritocracy. For this reason is impossible rise socially in Brazil and the social mobility are very limited. The owner put their son in the management position and when their son die their grandchildren will assume power and so on.
The power is hereditary if you born in a powerful clan the position of power is yours no matter if you don't have any talent or Phd. This cruel and corrupt system exclude good professionals from the selection and condemn the country. A lot of Brazilians who speak fluent english, have a bachelor's degree work as street vendors because don't born in powerful clans and they are excluded from the selection.

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Old 07-09-2023, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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That is not a exaggeration that is the true. Brazil is a very depressive country to live. Today the birth rate in Brazil is one of the lowest in Latin America. In many Brazilian states the birth rate is below 1,50 children per woman and exist a good reason for this.
No matter how hard you work without powerful connections, you only get ****ty jobs. The nepotism in Brazil are scandalous for example in Brazilian companies the owners put their sons, friends, fiances in the management positions and power without any legitim selection or meritocracy. For this reason is impossible rise socially in Brazil and the social mobility are very limited. The owner put their son in the management position and when their son die their grandchildren will assume power and so on.
The power is hereditary if you born in a powerful clan the position of power is yours no matter if you don't have any talent or Phd. This cruel and corrupt system exclude good professionals from the selection and condemn the country. A lot of Brazilians who speak fluent english, have a bachelor's degree work as street vendors because don't born in powerful clans and they are excluded from the selection.
Not to burst your (Brazilian?) bubble, but there are only a handful of managerial positions in any company and in Brazil, like in much of Latin America, businesses are family-owned including most of the big businesses (which in many countries they account for a small share of the jobs in any sector).

This is how it is in the USA.

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- 28% of recent college graduates are working at jobs that only require a high school diploma; 6% have jobs with no education requirements at all
- 1 in 5 recent grads are working at jobs that are unrelated to their major
- 84% of recent grads say finding a job was ‘very’ or ‘somewhat’ difficult
- 40% recent grads still seeking employment have lowered their salary expectations
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A whopping 63% of graduates from vocational or trade schools, and 61% of individuals who completed master’s degrees since 2021, are underemployed. Fifty-two percent of PhD grads are working at jobs they could have gotten with a master’s degree or less.

Forty-three percent of graduates from associate degree programs are working at jobs they could have gotten with a high school diploma or less.

Bachelor’s degree students are doing the best, but a full 40% of them are working in jobs they would have been qualified for with an associate’s degree, high school diploma, or no specific education at all.
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Roughly one-fifth of recent graduates, 21%, are working in jobs, either full or part-time, that aren’t related to their major area of study. Among those who are working in their field of study, another 21% are currently working part-time.

Despite the current hot job market, less than half of recent graduates, 47%, have been able to secure full-time employment in a job related to what they studied in college.
https://www.resumebuilder.com/one-th...ege-education/

That's how you want it to be in Brazil? That's the ideal?


Unlike in several countries in Latin America (perhaps Brazil is included in this), Americans don't blame this or any issue on being a developing country since it isn't. Everywhere life is hard (unless you're born in the UAE as an Emirati citizen -a small minority since most people there are not Emirati and it's basically impossible for a normal person to become one, you also need Emirati citizenship to get all the benefits from the government which are many and very generous- as the government takes care of you from cradle to grave and you, as an Emirati, is basically guaranteed to live a pampered life. In that case, you have to work very hard to fail.)

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