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With what you said about Ceará, I was curious to know the performance of each Brazilian state in the PISA assessments.
Indeed, if all the states in the north and northeast and Rio de Janeiro had Ceara's performance, we would have a much higher national average in PISA.
But I think it also needs to be seen what good is being done in Minas and Espirito Santo, especially in Minas, which is very similar to Brazil with a large population, the northern part of Minas being much poorer (similar to Bahia) than the southern part (similar to Sao Paulo), but still manages to do better than Sao Paulo and the two souther states, but in any case, no state has scores close to the OECD average.
Reference schools will not solve the problem, this is what we have always had in Brazil, what is needed is the quality of teaching in ALL public schools to gradually increase faster than it increase today.
Brazil will only advance in productivity faster, among other factors, with better human capital qualifications.
PISA exams are the best way to measure the evolution of a country and make comparisons at a global level.
You saying that if Brazil reaches the educational level of Ceará, the problem will already be solved is pure chauvinism and a lie.
Ceará has CLOSE 0.400, which is Brazil's average in PISA. Ceará is NINITH among the states in Brazil, it is correct to say that if Ceará's neighboring states in the north and northeast reached the same level, or even other richer ones like Rio de Janeiro, Brazil as a whole will improve significantly.
But not even the richest states in Brazil that are at the top of the ranking reach at least the OECD average. We have a lot to improve.
PISA 2015
Posição Unidade federativa Nota
1 Espírito Santo 427
2 Paraná 421
3 Distrito Federal 417
4 Minas Gerais 417
5 Santa Catarina 412
6 São Paulo 404
7 Rio Grande do Sul 402
8 Goiás 402
9 Ceará 397
10 Mato Grosso do Sul 397
12 Amazonas 395
13 Acre 394
14 Roraima 391
15 Mato Grosso 390
16 Rio de Janeiro 386
17 Pará 381
18 Rondônia 381
19 Pernambuco 379
20 Paraíba 374
21 Amapá 373
22 Piauí 372
23 Rio Grande do Norte 371
24 Sergipe 369
25 Tocantins 366
26 Maranhão 363
27 Bahia 361
28 Alagoas 354
Last edited by EVANGELISTTI; 05-08-2024 at 05:58 AM..
Reference schools will not solve the problem, this is what we have always had in Brazil, what is needed is the quality of teaching in ALL public schools to gradually increase faster than it increase today.
Brazil will only advance in productivity faster, among other factors, with better human capital qualifications.
PISA exams are the best way to measure the evolution of a country and make comparisons at a global level.
You saying that if Brazil reaches the educational level of Ceará, the problem will already be solved is pure chauvinism and a lie.
Ceará has CLOSE 0.400, which is Brazil's average in PISA. Ceará is NINITH among the states in Brazil, it is correct to say that if Ceará's neighboring states in the north and northeast reached the same level, or even other richer ones like Rio de Janeiro, Brazil as a whole will improve significantly.
But not even the richest states in Brazil that are at the top of the ranking reach at least the OECD average. We have a lot to improve.
PISA 2015
Posição Unidade federativa Nota
1 Espírito Santo 427
2 Paraná 421
3 Distrito Federal 417
4 Minas Gerais 417
5 Santa Catarina 412
6 São Paulo 404
7 Rio Grande do Sul 402
8 Goiás 402
9 Ceará 397
10 Mato Grosso do Sul 397
12 Amazonas 395
13 Acre 394
14 Roraima 391
15 Mato Grosso 390
16 Rio de Janeiro 386
17 Pará 381
18 Rondônia 381
19 Pernambuco 379
20 Paraíba 374
21 Amapá 373
22 Piauí 372
23 Rio Grande do Norte 371
24 Sergipe 369
25 Tocantins 366
26 Maranhão 363
27 Bahia 361
28 Alagoas 354
I will not keep myself in this debate here. You need to study a LOT about the educational system of Ceará instead of focusing on PISA.
Learn everything you can about the nationwide IDEB (Índice de Desenvolvimento da Educação Básica) for a start. Then check this wiki: Lista de municípios do Brasil por IDEB
Brazil is a very unequal country, slavery was abolished just over 120 years ago, which is not a long time, about 4 generations, and all the descendants of slaves and even white rural workers in general, the government never bothered to educate them , because their type of work did not even require literacy, and because landowners did not like educated workers who demanded more of their rights.
In my opinion Brazil is a country who have a huge potential to became a superpower but the the ignorant, backward and imbecile population that inhabits it is what makes that impossible. The big problem of Brazil is Brazilians. If all ethnic groups emerge for wealth is it would be beneficial for everyone the exclusion generates marginalization. Because these thousand of people who became drug lords, cartel members, they could be engineers, doctors, scientists and be leading the country to fame and glory instead of killing each other. But try explaining that to the ridiculous Brazilian white elite is impossible. Brazilian white elite maintained the mentality of slave owners... see us a non-human creatures who that were created to serve them.
In my opinion Brazil is a country who have a huge potential to became a superpower but the the ignorant, backward and imbecile population that inhabits it is what makes that impossible. The big problem of Brazil is Brazilians. If all ethnic groups emerge for wealth is it would be beneficial for everyone the exclusion generates marginalization. Because these thousand of people who became drug lords, cartel members, they could be engineers, doctors, scientists and be leading the country to fame and glory instead of killing each other. But try explaining that to the ridiculous Brazilian white elite is impossible. Brazilian white elite maintained the mentality of slave owners... see us a non-human creatures who that were created to serve them.
All global superpowers gained that position by the actions of very few people.
Spain was the first truly global superpower and that was started with a bunch of conquistadors and explorers. In a relatively short time Spain went from a country limited to Europe to an empire that span the globe, where the sun never set because it was always shining in some part of the empire. Most Spaniards lived and died with not having any impact on Spain becoming and maintaining itself as a world superpower.
Britain would later rise to superpower status and that too was acheived by a relatively small group of people.
Then the USA became a superpower and still is, and it isn’t because of the everyday Americans. They were simply born in a country at a time it’s a superpower and that’s basically it. Most have no connection with the small group of Americans that actually made it a superpower.
There were others that didn’t reach the level of superpower, but were still powerful and built an empire. Case in point, Portugal. That too wasn’t due to the typical everyday Portuguese.
Brazil’s issue as far as becoming a superpower has little to do with its population. Who knows, maybe the time for Brazil to be a global superpower still hasn’t arrived.
All global superpowers gained that position by the actions of very few people.
Spain was the first truly global superpower and that was started with a bunch of conquistadors and explorers. In a relatively short time Spain went from a country limited to Europe to an empire that span the globe, where the sun never set because it was always shining in some part of the empire. Most Spaniards lived and died with not having any impact on Spain becoming and maintaining itself as a world superpower.
Britain would later rise to superpower status and that too was acheived by a relatively small group of people.
Then the USA became a superpower and still is, and it isn’t because of the everyday Americans. They were simply born in a country at a time it’s a superpower and that’s basically it. Most have no connection with the small group of Americans that actually made it a superpower.
There were others that didn’t reach the level of superpower, but were still powerful and built an empire. Case in point, Portugal. That too wasn’t due to the typical everyday Portuguese.
Brazil’s issue as far as becoming a superpower has little to do with its population. Who knows, maybe the time for Brazil to be a global superpower still hasn’t arrived.
I hope that one day yes hope is the last thing to flow
This is one of our candidates for councilor in Brazil. green power ranger. When i see these things i think " man this country go to the tomb".
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