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Old 09-23-2012, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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What if Arizona owned the top shore of the Gulf of California while Mexico owned the rest of it?
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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Finally, someone who has some imagination! If we did then that would be AWESOME! We wouldn't have nearly as many haters saying Arizona isn't "unique".
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It would all be owned by rich people and we would not be able to get anywhere near the beach. It's better like it is, but they gotta get the violence under control.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...9clay0629.html
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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What if Arizona owned the top shore of the Gulf of California while Mexico owned the rest of it?
Agreed. Too bad we didn't get it when we bought where Tucson is from Mexico in 2012 back in 1853, Gadsden Purchase.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:39 AM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Puerto Peñasco should have been part of Arizona. I don't see why not because a good share of Rocky Point's tourists and residents are Arizonans. The extension would have made Arizona the fifth largest state area wise, but what does that matter? At least the state would have its own coast & beach ... admittedly, not the cool marine coast like San Diego's, but at least it would be something. Most of all, people wouldn't have to go through the trouble of obtaining a passport, buying Mexican car insurance, going through the border checks, and taking the big risk of driving in Mexico. I'm pretty certain that if Rocky Point was the tourist attraction back when the borders were being drawn, it would have been Arizona's to grab.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Maricopa County, AZ
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History Channel brought this up during an episode of "How the States Got their Shapes".

Washington DC denied Arizona a port at Yuma, during statehood, because of the Territory's support of the Confederates during the Civil War (a payback if you will). Whether it's a hard truth reason or not, it seems to explain why the international border goes northwest and avoids the Gulf of California.

Yuma having a beach...that would be sooo cool.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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What if Arizona owned the top shore of the Gulf of California while Mexico owned the rest of it?
Better yet, why not have the U.S. annex all of Sonora? They want to be part of the U.S. anyway...
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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History Channel brought this up during an episode of "How the States Got their Shapes".

Washington DC denied Arizona a port at Yuma, during statehood, because of the Territory's support of the Confederates during the Civil War (a payback if you will). Whether it's a hard truth reason or not, it seems to explain why the international border goes northwest and avoids the Gulf of California.

Yuma having a beach...that would be sooo cool.
How stupid. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Mexico has no use for ports.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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History Channel brought this up during an episode of "How the States Got their Shapes".

Washington DC denied Arizona a port at Yuma, during statehood, because of the Territory's support of the Confederates during the Civil War (a payback if you will). Whether it's a hard truth reason or not, it seems to explain why the international border goes northwest and avoids the Gulf of California.

Yuma having a beach...that would be sooo cool.
Uh; we and New Mexico became states in 1912, the Mexican American War was in 1848 and the Gadsden Purchase was 1853.
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