Kingman: Roadhouse 66 (1985) - The 66 Cafe & Bar? (Seligman: credit, hotel)

[Grumbler]

Roadhouse 66 (1985) with William Dafoe and Judge Reinhold was filmed exclusively
in Kingman according to the film credits. Oatman was included, too.

Was wondering whether, despite the passage of 30 years, The 66 Cafe & Bar
still exists under a different name these days. Looks to be in a rural area back
then. Not sure whether it was in Kingman or elsewhere:



This is the DVD cover:



Many thanks!

[teddyearp]

It's highly likely that it may have never existed.

[Grumbler]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

It's highly likely that it may have never existed.

You could be right as it might have been nothing more than a movie prop. Am
sure the mobile home in background is authentic. Unfortunately, google street
view excludes most of Kingman.

[kdog]

That's totally real. I mean look at that place, complete with old utility wires and everything. You can't make that up. It seems to me I've seen this place around the small community of Valle Vista, about 10 or 15 miles east of Kingman, before you get to Hackberry. Still standing I'm pretty sure, but out of business.

[rambrush]

I am sure wondering myself, need to take another look at Hackberry general store and see if this would fit without the gas pumps.

[kdog]

Originally Posted by rambrush

I am sure wondering myself, need to take another look at Hackberry general store and see if this would fit without the gas pumps.

No, I have pictures of the Hackberry store. It's a flat roof, not a gable. I feel like I've seen something like this somewhere near Valle Vista though. It's possible I could have been thinking of this place at the corner of Antares Road. https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4186...0Pk3GqX1Uw!2e0

That doesn't look quite right either. Is there another abandoned place that's on the Kingman side of Valle Vista along Rt. 66? Or maybe it's further out toward Seligman. Lot of old structures like this are around.

[rambrush]

Well if you are not sure I turn to a friend who just happens to be the Executive Director of Tourism.
Here is his reply

This is heading south-west of Kingman on the way to the old sand dragstrip. The building no longer exists, staff in the Visitor Center did some research on this two or three years ago. You can get there by taking 4th Street South across the tracks, then continue with a slight curve right onto Old trails Road. This image is looking West just a couple hundred feet from the where Old Trails Road breaks off of 4th Street and was Route 66 in the 1920's - 1930's. Here is a Google Maps link: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1842.../data=!3m1!1e3

[azdr0710]

thanks for that research, rambrush....

based on the Executive Director of Tourism's info, I wonder if that building in the google picture with the chocolate-colored roof just west of 3rd St on Old Trails replaced the old building (but obviously not on the exact footprint)...??.....

maybe a local could go out there and try to duplicate the exact angle of that picture??!!



EDIT: just looked at the picture again....I wonder if the old "cafe" is on the EAST side of 3rd and that that is 3rd visible just beyond the cafe and on this side of the further structure, which may have been replaced by the chocolate-colored roof building in later years

I really like research like this

[Grumbler]

Originally Posted by azdr0710

I really like research like this

Just now checked in again. If this was in Kingman with the foothills to the south then
the cafe would be located on the east side of road with foothills in background. Seems
to be located in a rural area rather than in town.

The road was level near the cafe then went uphill and curved to the left. Right past the
cafe where road is still level can take a hard right turn onto a westbound street as well
a left turn onto that same street where you see the home behind that cafe.

Meaning, cafe is in northeast corner at west/east road with a southbound road running
uphill and curving to the east.

Notice that the race in movie started right by the Beale Hotel on southbound 4th St just
before the railroad tracks.

One more thing, the cafe had kitchen in back with bar counter and stools overlooking
the kitchen. Booths were located on the right. A pool table or two in middle with just
chairs and tables on the left. Jukebox by the door. Don't know whether that was the
actual cafe interior or a movie set.

[rambrush]

I won't be able to get down there until possibly Monday as I am up at the other end of town.
So it will be interesting when I can get down and snap a couple of pictures of the area. Meant to also ask a fellow worker as he lives on Hubbs and been there for 50+ years but got busy and never got the chance. He would be another source I could track down.
He at one point advised that between the tracks by Crazy Freds truck stop to the east of the steel plant used to be a ladys of the night establishment but never have gotten that confirmed yet.