Only 1/4 of Arizona is Hot! (Phoenix, Tucson: live in, move, furnace)

[grmi66]

The two climate classifications we are missing are permanent frozen tundra and humid sub-tropical. All of the other climate zones can be found (even if it is on a few acres like our alpine tundra on the San Francisco Peaks).

[teddyearp]

Nope. As far as the rest of the country is concerned, Arizona is just one huge desert without any trees. And it gets hot as heck there most all the time.

Let's just keep it that way, lol.

[corydon]

Originally Posted by maverick974

Also, did you know that UPS, FEDEX and USPS have no A/C in their delivery trucks? OSHA or the unions don't allow it. It's unhealthy to go in and out of the hot and cold so much apparently. That's what one of the drivers told me anyway.

A few LTL companies have no AC in the OTR trucks, like Estes.

And I allways thought, if a person moves to Phoenix, and complains about the heat in the summer, they did not do their homework....

[PoppySead]

I knew changing our capital to Phoenix from Prescott was a bad idea. lol Just think if they would have gone with Prescott.

[magnum0417]

Originally Posted by PoppySead

I knew changing our capital to Phoenix from Prescott was a bad idea. lol Just think if they would have gone with Prescott.

The water would be dried up.LOL. The aquifers including the one in Chino Valley are getting used at a fast pace as is, it would be sucked dry if Prescott had 500000 people as opposed to the 100000 or so in the area.

[wit-nit]

OP...Phoenix area is the central part of AZ, not the Mogollon Rim or White Mountains.
Visit AZ

[tigerdog]

Originally Posted by maverick974

Not much population in eastern Oregon or eastern Washington.

Eastern Washington has Spokane in the North-East, a lovely city not far from the Idaho border (a river runs through it), population around 210,000. Not a huge population, but not exactly a village, either. Very different climate from the northwest.

South of there are the Tri-Cities (Kennewick, Pasco, and Richland), population approaching 200,000, and lovely little Walla Walla.

In between the coastal area and Spokane you'll find a varied climate and lots of small cities and towns like Leavenworth, Yakima, Wenatchee, Ephrata...

So Eastern Washington, by which I mean east of the Cascades, while not bustling like the PNW, isn't exactly empty space either, and its several climates are far superior to Seattle and Portland, IMHO.

[enigmadsm]

while the state in its entirety may have a large amount of cooler places....the majority of the states population reside in the SW corner you reference. so to the masses, its hot as heck!

[maverick974]

Originally Posted by tigerdog

Eastern Washington has Spokane in the North-East, a lovely city not far from the Idaho border (a river runs through it), population around 210,000. Not a huge population, but not exactly a village, either. Very different climate from the northwest.

South of there are the Tri-Cities (Kennewick, Pasco, and Richland), population approaching 200,000, and lovely little Walla Walla.

In between the coastal area and Spokane you'll find a varied climate and lots of small cities and towns like Leavenworth, Yakima, Wenatchee, Ephrata...

So Eastern Washington, by which I mean east of the Cascades, while not bustling like the PNW, isn't exactly empty space either, and its several climates are far superior to Seattle and Portland, IMHO.

Exactly. East of the Cascades in both Oregon and Washington, you have one reasonabley large metro area. In Oregon, it's the Bend/Redmond area and in Washington it's the tri-city area. Other than that, it's pretty desolate. In both states, there are several areas that have no services for 60 to 100 miles or more. I remember driving from Bend over to the eastern border of Oregon to do some work and I didn't realize how desolate it was. I came into "Stinking Water Pass" on fumes. I wanted fuel and the guy wouldn't get out of his seat for anything under 10 gallons of fuel.
Stinking Water Pass is a real place. Google it. LOL.

[AZDesertBrat]

Originally Posted by maverick974

Exactly. East of the Cascades in both Oregon and Washington, you have one reasonabley large metro area. In Oregon, it's the Bend/Redmond area and in Washington it's the tri-city area. Other than that, it's pretty desolate. In both states, there are several areas that have no services for 60 to 100 miles or more. I remember driving from Bend over to the eastern border of Oregon to do some work and I didn't realize how desolate it was. I came into "Stinking Water Pass" on fumes. I wanted fuel and the guy wouldn't get out of his seat for anything under 10 gallons of fuel.
Stinking Water Pass is a real place. Google it. LOL.

I remember one road trip I took from Portland, OR to Sandpoint, ID and very nearly ran out of gas! I figured I could do just fine and fill up in the Tri-city area. What I got was a bunch of stations closed up fairly early in the day! Talk about fumes! lol It's been a long time since then and I don't remember where I got gas but probably around Richland.