ADOT: I-17 traffic fix too costly

[sargeant79]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

There is an alternate way between Phoenix and Flag, 87 to Clints Well, then Coconino National Forest Rd 3/Lake Mary Rd, paved the whole way and goes right into Flagstaff

This also adds well over an hour to the drive. Besides...most of the time when the traffic is an issue on I-17, it's because traffic is stopped (usually due to an accident). By the time you're caught in that, you're well past the point where you can choose to take 87.

[Dewey59]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Good points, but speed isn't the cause of backups ... slowpokes are mainly to blame for that! It's a matter of knowing WHEN to slow down & proceed with caution. I definitely agree about the rubberneckers/gawkers. There again, they cause the backups because they SLOW DOWN unnecessarily and cause others behind them to hit the brakes.

Well, if speed was the cause or contributor to the original accident, (which it is in many cases), then yes it can be a cause of the backups, because if there had been no accident, the gawkers wouldn't have a reason to gawk! Sometimes you need to look all the way back to the root cause.

[Arizona89A]

Originally Posted by Hschlick84

According to ADOT, the I-17 fix is too costly, of $125 million.

ADOT: I-17 traffic fix too costly to be feasible | The Daily Courier | Prescott, AZ

That's a load of BS in my opinion. Take a look at the interstate west of Denver called I-70. They managed to widen it to 3 lanes both directions up to Empire. West of the Eisenhower tunnel, it's 3 lanes both directions and the inclines and passes are MUCH more steep than anything on I-17.

If it was done in Colorado on I-70, it can be accomplished on I-17. Time to widen it, no excuses.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6670...2!8i6656?hl=en

Rural interstates need more funding in the USA and raising the national gas tax could help with financing the widening. Another nearby interstate that needs widening is on the top 10 list of nation's most dangerous freeways, I-10. It could also be three lanes in each direction from Buckeye to Indio, Ca. Likewise, the 15 from Vegas to San Bernardino.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Arizona89A

Rural interstates need more funding in the USA and raising the national gas tax could help with financing the widening. Another nearby interstate that needs widening is on the top 10 list of nation's most dangerous freeways, I-10. It could also be three lanes in each direction from Buckeye to Indio, Ca. Likewise, the 15 from Vegas to San Bernardino.

I drive 15 between Vegas and LA alot, and it is already 3 lanes each way from Barstow to Victorville, and 4 lanes each way from Victorville to Rancho Cucamonga

[Arizona89A]

Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220

I drive 15 between Vegas and LA alot, and it is already 3 lanes each way from Barstow to Victorville, and 4 lanes each way from Victorville to Rancho Cucamonga

Glad to hear that, that area is developing quickly, and the entire corridor between the NV line and down can be developed for manufacturing and industry.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Arizona89A

Glad to hear that, that area is developing quickly, and the entire corridor between the NV line and down can be developed for manufacturing and industry.

A lot of that land is owned by the BLM/Federal Government