What is the probability Hillary Clinton Will Win In Arizona? (crimes, employment)

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

This one always makes me just go hmmm. I saw a meme a while back that pretty much hits it. Unless you believe exactly like a liberal, you are intolerant. I thought tolerance meant allowing others to believe what they want to believe.

Liberals do not care what you believe or do. They just do not think you have the right to impose your beliefs on someone else. If you are opposed to pot, that is fine but why do you have to prevents others from enjoying it and imposing your beliefs on them? No one is forcing you to smoke it.


Conservatives essentially claim they are being discriminated against for not being allowed to discriminate against others. It would be like a Nazi claiming he was discriminated against because he wasn't allowed to ostracize Jews. Conservatives came up with a way to assume the victim role for depriving others of their rights ie "I'm no longer allowed to not sell a wedding cake to a gay person so my rights are being taken away from me."

But yes, I think liberals can discriminate as well. I don't agree with liberals trying to impose a tax on soda in California. Essentially they are discriminating against those who wish to drink soda. Liberals are trying to impose their sense of values on the public by demonizing sugar.

[DaveinMtAiry]

I really wanted this to be over, I am so done pointing out what an assclown Donald Trump is. But now with the obviously orchestrated move by the FBI Director with an agenda I wish we had another week or so for all that to simmer down. 2 weeks ago I wasn't worried, Trump was going to lose. But things have changed thanks to Comey and I am worried.

[DaveinMtAiry]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Liberals do not care what you believe or do. They just do not think you have the right to impose your beliefs on someone else. If you are opposed to pot, that is fine but why do you have to prevents others from enjoying it and imposing your beliefs on them? No one is forcing you to smoke it.


Conservatives essentially claim they are being discriminated against for not being allowed to discriminate against others. It would be like a Nazi claiming he was discriminated against because he wasn't allowed to ostracize Jews. Conservatives came up with a way to assume the victim role for depriving others of their rights ie "I'm no longer allowed to not sell a wedding cake to a gay person so my rights are being taken away from me."

But yes, I think liberals can discriminate as well. I don't agree with liberals trying to impose a tax on soda in California. Essentially they are discriminating against those who wish to drink soda. Liberals are trying to impose their sense of values on the public by demonizing sugar.

Very well said. Agree on all points.

[MyNameIsBellaMia]

Originally Posted by autism360

0% chance because all of the clinton scandals have come home to roost

One would think, but the empty heads have already forgotten about her scandals.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

She is not a criminal. That is your opinion. There are no FACTS to prove she is a criminal. However, Trump has ridiculed a handicapped person. He insulted parents of a slain soldier. He accused a Federal judge of failing to do his job because of his race. He has been implicated in multiple lawsuits for failure to pay for contracted work. He has been accused of cheating on two previous wives. Those are facts.

She's not a criminal? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Best thing I've read all day.


She's funneled money from the Clinton Foundation. Guilty. She's deleted CLASSIFIED emails. Guilty. She used a unsecure, personal server for classified emails. Guilty. She's shared CLASSIFIED info with people not qualified to read such emails. Guilty. Lying under oath about said emails (read: OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE). Guilty. She has smashed cellphones and lost several (why would that be, hmmm?). Guilty. Leaked emails show DNC primaries were rigged. Guilty.


Trump said mean things. ohhhhh what a shame.


How easily you forget Hillary called many Americans "deplorables". She called Bernie supporters "basement dwellers". She and her team called Hispanic voters "taco bowls". She called black men "super predators". She called racist Margaret Sanger a "inspiration". She is best buds with the KKK Grand Wizard, whom she also calls a "inspiration". She has flip-flopped on SO MANY policies (gay marriage, the Iraq War, etc) to get a vote that its pathetic. She is under FBI investigation. Again. She hired on Wasserman after she resigned due to corruption. She is aligned with Huma Abedin, whos parents are ISIS supporters. She has taken hundreds of millions of dollars from gay-hating, women-hating, Middle Eastern countries. Hillary is married to a impeached rapist, who lied under oath to the American public. Her, Obama, Michelle, Bill, etc, have ALL lost their licenses to practice law. She blamed her incompetence about Benghazi on a YouTube video (stupid beotch) and said "what difference does it make?". She high-fived her team in front of the slain Benghazi victims' families. She is sick and dying and covering it up. She blamed her fainting spell on "heat" in NYC on 9/11 (it was 74 degrees). Her best friend Huma's husband (Anthony Weiner) is a child molesting perv boy who likes to sext photos to teenagers). She has gotten GUILTY rape victims out of jail and was caught on tape literally laughing about it, despite how she knew he was GUILTY. She stole umpteen thousands of dollars worth of furniture from the White House. Shall I go on?

[AZ_Rookie]

^^^ don't interject truth and logic - you will only upset the agenda of some, confuse others (that insist on wearing blinders), and preaching to the choir of remainder.

I'm no Trump fan, I think he's a buffoon and it's a damn shame he was the nominee... But the obvious awfulness of Clinton simply can't be ignored. We can't have a society where some are more equal than others. She is not above the law and finally more people are realizing what a crook she really is.

Only people with an agenda and no concern for truth, justice and fairness (or simply ignorant of facts) are supporting Clinton.

It's one thing to not support Trump (and I honestly understand the difficulty in bringing yourself to support him) - but that doesn't automatically mean support should go to Clinton. This is literally the most significant "worse of two evils" we've ever had (anyone living anyway). Clinton is far and away the worse of these two evils (her actions have shown that). It's not opinion based - its fact. They are both horrid - but Hillary is the worst thing that could happen to this country. Plain and simple.

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Liberals do not care what you believe or do. They just do not think you have the right to impose your beliefs on someone else. If you are opposed to pot, that is fine but why do you have to prevents others from enjoying it and imposing your beliefs on them? No one is forcing you to smoke it.

For the record, I support the legalization of marijuana. Many of my peers, some of them on this board, do as well. I believe that as a free citizen, if my action is not hurting another, the .gov has no right to impose a law against it.

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Conservatives essentially claim they are being discriminated against for not being allowed to discriminate against others. It would be like a Nazi claiming he was discriminated against because he wasn't allowed to ostracize Jews. Conservatives came up with a way to assume the victim role for depriving others of their rights ie "I'm no longer allowed to not sell a wedding cake to a gay person so my rights are being taken away from me."

The part I put in bold is a sticking point with me. I believe that as a free citizen, if my action is not hurting another, the .gov has no right to impose a law against it. And before you say I am hurting (or discriminating against) someone, said person, in a free society, is more than free to chose another business that will provide said services. Instead, the progressive agenda has them crying victim much much louder.

You need to start thinking for yourself instead of being entrenched in (and indoctrinated by) this 'us vs them' mentality. Some would call me a conservative, but only because some freedom loving individuals share some of the conservative values. If you really take a long hard look and listen for yourself, the new 'liberal/democrat', i.e. progressive really wants to impose much much more of their will upon freedom loving individuals than some of those who you would call conservative.

[dvxhd]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

For the record, I support the legalization of marijuana. Many of my peers, some of them on this board, do as well. I believe that as a free citizen, if my action is not hurting another, the .gov has no right to impose a law against it.




The part I put in bold is a sticking point with me. I believe that as a free citizen, if my action is not hurting another, the .gov has no right to impose a law against it. And before you say I am hurting (or discriminating against) someone, said person, in a free society, is more than free to chose another business that will provide said services. Instead, the progressive agenda has them crying victim much much louder.

You need to start thinking for yourself instead of being entrenched in (and indoctrinated by) this 'us vs them' mentality. Some would call me a conservative, but only because some freedom loving individuals share some of the conservative values. If you really take a long hard look and listen for yourself, the new 'liberal/democrat', i.e. progressive really wants to impose much much more of their will upon freedom loving individuals than some of those who you would call conservative.

Question: I presume you're a Christian, so if I were a police officer or firefighter, as an atheist may I have the liberty to deny helping you because I find your beliefs repulsive, vile and against everything I believe in? While your place is being robbed or burning down, I can say I was taking a stand for religious liberty and it was my right NOT to help you.

[LBTRS]

Originally Posted by dvxhd

Question: I presume you're a Christian, so if I were a police officer or firefighter, as an atheist may I have the liberty to deny helping you because I find your beliefs repulsive, vile and against everything I believe in? While your place is being robbed or burning down, I can say I was taking a stand for religious liberty and it was my right NOTto help you.

Typical of the left, throw out some analogy that is in no way relevant.

A police officer or firefighter are public servants paid for by taxpayers. They must perform their duties regardless of their feelings about anything.

A private business owner should be allowed to run his/her business however they see fit. If you don't like it, don't support them. If enough people quit supporting that business they will change their policy or go out of business.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by LBTRS

Typical of the left, throw out some analogy that is in no way relevant.

A police officer or firefighter are public servants paid for by taxpayers. They must perform their duties regardless of their feelings about anything.

A private business owner should be allowed to run his/her business however they see fit. If you don't like it, don't support them. If enough people quit supporting that business they will change their policy or go out of business.

What if you're within a Rural/Metro service area?

What about private utilities? Should they be allowed to pick and choose who they service water/electricity to?