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Old 02-25-2017, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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I guess these people feel they know what's best for the citizens of Arizona. This bill would silence the voters. I'll bet this has everything to do with the legalization of marijuana and their opposition of it.

The Arizona Senate will decide whether to ask voters next year to repeal or revise a 1998 constitutional amendment that prevents lawmakers from changing or getting rid of voter-approved laws.

Senate to weigh asking voters to toss initiative protections - KVOA | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: The edge of the world and all of Western civilization
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This bill would silence the voters
Is that not the norm in Arizona? I voted in the last election only to find this state (or maybe just the county, to be fair) conveniently voided my ballot when I voted against Trump, thus my vote never counted (though they've been mailing me ballots ever since I moved here and registered within days of arriving). I know they voided it because I actually called in to verify it when my online records said they had no record of me voting, though I did, and the woman who answered when I called to complain told me there wasn't really much she would do. Whatever I guess... Arizona mantra to justify why people had to move here... liberty, freedom and all that nonsense.
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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I guess these people feel they know what's best for the citizens of Arizona. This bill would silence the voters. I'll bet this has everything to do with the legalization of marijuana and their opposition of it.

The Arizona Senate will decide whether to ask voters next year to repeal or revise a 1998 constitutional amendment that prevents lawmakers from changing or getting rid of voter-approved laws.

Senate to weigh asking voters to toss initiative protections - KVOA | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona
The 1998 law was the best thing that happened regarding state ballot propositions. Before then, whenever voters approved measures, they would often be altered or eliminated by the Legislature or judges. The final say should always rest with the voters ... not overbearing government bureaucrats!
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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I'll bet this has everything to do with the legalization of marijuana and their opposition of it.
Also, the minimum wage increase. The Chamber of Commerce was angry about that one and has been lobbying the legislature for this referendum to hobble initiatives by the voters.

The Arizona Horizons show on PBS has had a lot of good discussions about this recently.
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Let's hope Arizonans see this for what it is,but I won't hold my breath.
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Old 02-25-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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I'm all for it....as long as they add something that says voters can quickly/easily elect out people in office at anytime for any reason the people want. That's only fair if elected clowns are allowed to override voters.
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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I guess these people feel they know what's best for the citizens of Arizona. This bill would silence the voters. I'll bet this has everything to do with the legalization of marijuana and their opposition of it.

The Arizona Senate will decide whether to ask voters next year to repeal or revise a 1998 constitutional amendment that prevents lawmakers from changing or getting rid of voter-approved laws.

Senate to weigh asking voters to toss initiative protections - KVOA | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona


Actually, this anti-initiative movement is driven by the minimum wage law that came through the initiative process.
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Old 02-25-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Actually, this anti-initiative movement is driven by the minimum wage law that came through the initiative process.
This is BS. They would be cowtowing to the chamber of commerce, who are anti-worker
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Republican lawmakers in the House agreed Wednesday to ask voters to put another hurdle in the path of placing initiatives on the ballot.

AZ House approves 5th measure to curb voter initiatives | Local news | tucson.com
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Old 03-03-2017, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Also, the minimum wage increase. The Chamber of Commerce was angry about that one and has been lobbying the legislature for this referendum to hobble initiatives by the voters.

The Arizona Horizons show on PBS has had a lot of good discussions about this recently.

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Actually, this anti-initiative movement is driven by the minimum wage law that came through the initiative process.

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This is BS. They would be cowtowing to the chamber of commerce, who are anti-worker


They ARE responding to the Chamber's wishes.
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