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Old 09-09-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Left Phoenix due to the underwhelming job opportunities in the area. For a city of its size, the quality of job options isn't good. Not high quality large corporate HQs in the area. Chose to move to Dallas because of the number of Fortune 500 HQs in the area, making for better quality jobs in the region.
No big HQs? https://www.zippia.com/advice/larges...es-in-arizona/
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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You don’t think that’s impressive do you? Look at a place like Dallas. I totally see his point. We’re not exactly the commercial hub that a city our size should be.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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I guess its all in what career you're in.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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Phoenix has always had a reputation as the place you put your regional HQ, not your main HQ. Even now it appears that Silicon Valley will use Phoenix as the location of their back room operations, while the C-Suite remains in California.

State Farm opened up a huge regional office in Tempe, but the corporate office is still out of state. As does USAA, most of the credit card companies and banks.

Purely anecdotal on my part, but was involved in sales for a number of years in the Phoenix area. Most of the wealthy or upper middle class people I came across owned their own service business and were not employees of a larger company based in the area. Phoenix is a great place to be entrepreneurial.
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:19 PM
 
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I guess its all in what career you're in.
Not really unless we’re talking about low-level jobs in customer service and hospitality. There are far less white collar career opportunities and major employers here across all fields than there are in other like-sized cities.
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:24 PM
 
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The job market. I was a truck driver. Once I called a company. They hauled fuel to gas stations. They offered 5.50 an hour in 1995.... The most I made was 14 bucks an hour. And folks in the office could be real back stabbers.
Moved to Indiana, out in the boonies. Found an excellent paying driving job.

But I will always love Arizona.....
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:15 AM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Left Phoenix due to the underwhelming job opportunities in the area. For a city of its size, the quality of job options isn't good. Not high quality large corporate HQs in the area. Chose to move to Dallas because of the number of Fortune 500 HQs in the area, making for better quality jobs in the region.
If I was on the move primarily for higher paying jobs in a reputable national/global corporation, I would definitely choose Dallas or Houston. Those two metros are still larger than the Phoenix metro, but not by a whole lot when you look at the numbers ... however, the number of Fortune 500/Fortune 1,000 firms headquartered in Dallas & Houston makes Phoenix look like Mayberry in comparison when we're talking about corporations & job opportunities.

I hate to admit this, but there is one thing Phoenix has going for it over Dallas, and that is the climate. Phoenix's climate isn't anything to brag about when you factor in the blast furnace summers and the dryness/lack of rain, but Dallas has very hot, humid summers, cold winters, frequent severe storms (including a rather high tornado risk), and drastic temperature variations during other times of the year.
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Old 09-10-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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If I was on the move primarily for higher paying jobs in a reputable national/global corporation, I would definitely choose Dallas or Houston. Those two metros are still larger than the Phoenix metro, but not by a whole lot when you look at the numbers ... however, the number of Fortune 500/Fortune 1,000 firms headquartered in Dallas & Houston makes Phoenix look like Mayberry in comparison when we're talking about corporations & job opportunities.

I hate to admit this, but there is one thing Phoenix has going for it over Dallas, and that is the climate. Phoenix's climate isn't anything to brag about when you factor in the blast furnace summers and the dryness/lack of rain, but Dallas has very hot, humid summers, cold winters, frequent severe storms (including a rather high tornado risk), and drastic temperature variations during other times of the year.
Your first paragraph was exactly my thought process when I moved.

Phoenix is unpleasant from May 1 until mid-October with heat. Most of the rest of the year is pleasant. I felt the winters were a bit overrated in Phoenix because the temperature variation. Sure, it is 65-70 during the day in January, but being outdoors on a patio in Old Town Scottsdale at 1-2 am in January feels cold. It is usually in the 30s at that time. In Florida or Hawaii, that wouldn't happen. It's still a very nice winter because of the daytime though.

Dallas has a shorter hot season (June - September) but in exchange for that, there's a colder winter (but still not that bad of one compared to most of the U.S.) and severe storms. Ice storms in the winter every so often and regular thunderstorms in the spring/early summer. Storms have produced worse power outages in Dallas than I ever saw in Phoenix. No monsoon produced an awful power outage like I've seen with some storms in my time in Dallas.

I was disappointed that things didn't work out in Phoenix. It was the first city that I lived in after college graduation (in my mid-30s now). At that stage, a person tends to be more optimistic and my experiences in Phoenix did leave me a little more jaded, mostly related to the work and employment component of life.
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Between West Chester and Chester, PA
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It's my home state. I go back every once in awhile to visit my parents, relatives, and good friends in Tempe, Buckeye, and Gilbert. I left in 2011 because the candidate pool for my choice of profession is over saturated to the point where wages are way too low for the cost of living, for a single person. It hasn't gotten any better since I've left. They keep dropping! WTF? Only stupid and desperate people will accept crappy wages, and that is the way many companies out there prefer their candidates to be. From the other posts, it looks like many of us left for better career pastures.
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: northwest valley, az
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yeah, it looks like no one wants to move here...

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