Should Arizona have some form of rent control? (Phoenix, Gilbert: middle-class, rental)

[Woody01]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Actually he said he has no need for low-wage earners because we as a society should just do everything ourselves.

Read back. He did not say that. He said - " Didn't anyone teach you how to cut your own grass, fix your own faucet when it leaks or God forbid pick up a broom when the floor needs sweeping? Newsflash! Some us can do that ourselves and don't need low wage earners to do it."

Reading comprehension should be a required attribute for participation on the forum.

[thinkalot]

Originally Posted by Woody01

Read back. He did not say that. He said - " Didn't anyone teach you how to cut your own grass, fix your own faucet when it leaks or God forbid pick up a broom when the floor needs sweeping? Newsflash! Some us can do that ourselves and don't need low wage earners to do it."

Reading comprehension should be a required attribute for participation on the forum.

So, you will be leaving?

He said some of us don't need low wage earners to do it. All of us need them. Sure, we can do some things for ourselves but certainly not everything that low wage earners do.

So, where do you suppose the low wage earners should live? And, how should they live?

I for one am thankful for the people that do those jobs.

[Woody01]

Good one, I liked that! You missed his point though....

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Woody01

Read back. He did not say that. He said - " Didn't anyone teach you how to cut your own grass, fix your own faucet when it leaks or God forbid pick up a broom when the floor needs sweeping? Newsflash! Some us can do that ourselves and don't need low wage earners to do it."

Reading comprehension should be a required attribute for participation on the forum.

He said, “some of us…don’t need low wage earners”. Reading comprehension.

That’s a ridiculously elitist hot take and a moronic one at that.

[Woody01]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

He said, “some of us…don’t need low wage earners”. Reading comprehension.

That’s a ridiculously elitist hot take and a moronic one at that.

Quote - "Some of us can do it ourselves and don't need low wage earners to do it." Hint - When you take select words out of a sentence you change the context, I know that's a news flash for you, Bro. Careful who you call moron.....says kettle to pot....

[john3232]

These days I have a hard time finding landscapers to work at wages I was paying a few years back. So, I do much of the landscaping on my rentals myself.

If you're a skilled electrician you easily earn 80k and work your own hours. Same with a top notch plumber. In fact those who are skilled not only can name their price but they also won't travel far. They've usually got enough work where they live.

On the other hand if you have few marketable skills then you take what work you can get and share an apartment or house.

As a landlord what I've seen over the last few years when I list a rental are the number of calls where it's three adults wanting to move in. A married couple and a family member. Or three friends.

We all know the COL in the Phoenix metro has gone up fast. The middle class is fleeing Cal and AZ is a popular destination. I don't see this stopping anytime soon.

Rent control? If it comes anywhere it'll be in Phoenix or Tempe. But why hang around waiting for something that may or may not happen. If you're single and not happy...leave. I can understand the difficulties a couple with two kids might have up but someone single? Go.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Woody01

Quote - "Some of us can do it ourselves and don't need low wage earners to do it." Hint - When you take select words out of a sentence you change the context, I know that's a news flash for you, Bro. Careful who you call moron.....says kettle to pot....

You’re really going to fall on your sword defending some random other poster with a poorly thought out argument, huh? Weird, but I commend the commitment.

You need to re-read and try to grasp the concept being discussed. My point was that we need housing for low-wage earners, because society needs low wage earners. His point was, learn how to turn a wrench and grow an onion. Haha! So, would you like a redo or do you want to defend that silliness?

[Strannik33]

Sure! And while we're at it, let's pass a law that gas cannot cost more than $1 a gallon.

Oh, and that nobody should be paid less than $100/hr.

[Witchz]

People who want to say no rent control obviously are not renters and for those who are landlords - of course, you are against it because you want to make as much profit as you can.
The major corporations that are buying homes by the hundreds are the ones that are really making it tough. Just like the corporations that also own a lot of the apartment complexes.

I think the east valley is out of control and to be honest with you I don't know how they are renting most of the homes they do with the requirements needed to qualify for renting a home. If people need to make three times the amount of rent to get in and have a next to perfect credit score, rental history and had current job for at least six months and this is for all individuals on the application- where do these people come from with average rent $2,500 - 3,000 ? If your situation is this perfect why wouldn't you be buying instead of renting?

[john3232]

Originally Posted by Witchz

People who want to say no rent control obviously are not renters and for those who are landlords - of course, you are against it because you want to make as much profit as you can.
The major corporations that are buying homes by the hundreds are the ones that are really making it tough. Just like the corporations that also own a lot of the apartment complexes.

I think the east valley is out of control and to be honest with you I don't know how they are renting most of the homes they do with the requirements needed to qualify for renting a home. If people need to make three times the amount of rent to get in and have a next to perfect credit score, rental history and had current job for at least six months and this is for all individuals on the application- where do these people come from with average rent $2,500 - 3,000 ? If your situation is this perfect why wouldn't you be buying instead of renting?

I require 3.5 x the rent. For example a $2400 rental home applicants need to gross 8400 per month/100k per year. I require proof of income usually paystubs. With regards to credit score requirement anything over 700 catches my attention. I'm willing to be flexible on the income requirement if someone has a great credit score. On the other hand anything under 600 I pass on. Less than one year at current job won't work either.

I treat applicants equally and after talking on the phone it's clear most don't qualify. But after a few days I usually have 2 or 3 applicants who qualify and are interested in seeing the property. We met at the house and I go over the do's and don't of renting from me. Then I give them an application.

First person who returns the application and passes gets the rental.

As a landlord 90% of potential problems can be avoided simply by placing the good renters. (I know tenants complain about rentals being in shoddy condition. However, I personally inspect mine before move-in.)