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Old 08-04-2023, 12:53 PM
 
Location: The Mitten.
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Phoenicians,
Here in the Mitten our power company asks us to refrain from using a.c. (Household use) and laundry during peak hours; 2 to 7 pm. Is there a similar policy in place in Arizona?
Link for more detailed info:
https://www.consumersenergy.com/resi...me-of-use-rate
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Old 08-04-2023, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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APS and SRP have time-of-use plans. Also, if you have a compatible smart thermostat, you can enroll in their demand response programs and get a discount off your bill.
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Old 08-04-2023, 01:17 PM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Phoenicians,
Here in the Mitten our power company asks us to refrain from using a.c. (Household use) and laundry during peak hours; 2 to 7 pm. Is there a similar policy in place in Arizona?
Link for more detailed info:
https://www.consumersenergy.com/resi...me-of-use-rate

Ex-Michigan guy checking in....

On annual terms, our HVAC runs about 50% of the cost compared to Michigan. Plus, amazingly, our water bill in Phoenix is lower as well....compared to our city water services bill in SE MI.



After 19 years living in AZ, still feel weird throwin' beer cans in the trash.
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Old 08-04-2023, 11:14 PM
 
Location: The Disputed Lands
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APS and SRP have time-of-use plans. Also, if you have a compatible smart thermostat, you can enroll in their demand response programs and get a discount off your bill.
Ex Michigander here...Yes, it's kind of the same here actually. They keep saying it but the incentives to use less during like 2-7pm don't seem to be that great.

We pay over $250/mo in the hottest part of summer (well maybe more like $300 for this July!) but unlike Michigan we get a break in the winter when bills are closer to the low $100's depending on how cold it gets. In Michigan you get over $250 gas bills in the middle of winter (similar to Phx in summer) but electric is still higher in the summer than Phoenix heating bills in the winter (we don't have natural gas service, which is fine). But I looked back at some of my old bills and the cost difference isn't really that significant.

IDK, when we moved here we just got enrolled in the Basic rate plan where energy cost is constant all day long. I've heard about Time of Use plans but they don't seem to fit our lifestyle. See below from SRP portal - I just looked and saw some projections for it but the savings is only projected to be $14 a year at most. And I figured this projection is the best case scenario and worse case would be if we used too much power during the daytime and it would be cost hit. So I never switched. I kind of like that I can do whatever I want without thinking about utility costs.

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Price plan comparison
Am I on the right plan? Below are the lowest cost plans for you based on your historical power usage and the prices at that time.

Current BASIC
$166 monthly average
$1,988 annual projection

TIME-OF-USE
$163 monthly average
$1,951 annual projection

EZ-3 (4 - 7 P.M.)
$166 monthly average
$1,992 annual projection

TIME-OF-USE DEMAND
$167 monthly average
$2,002 annual projection

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Old 08-05-2023, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The push here is to curtail demand. It is not going to work to turn off ac's, but people are encouraged by rate structures to reduce demand between 4 and 7 pm - not run big appliances at the same time. Just the ac, or just the electric dryer/oven, not both during peak demand.
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Old 08-05-2023, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by KO Stradivarius View Post
Ex Michigander here...Yes, it's kind of the same here actually. They keep saying it but the incentives to use less during like 2-7pm don't seem to be that great.

We pay over $250/mo in the hottest part of summer (well maybe more like $300 for this July!) but unlike Michigan we get a break in the winter when bills are closer to the low $100's depending on how cold it gets. In Michigan you get over $250 gas bills in the middle of winter (similar to Phx in summer) but electric is still higher in the summer than Phoenix heating bills in the winter (we don't have natural gas service, which is fine). But I looked back at some of my old bills and the cost difference isn't really that significant.

IDK, when we moved here we just got enrolled in the Basic rate plan where energy cost is constant all day long. I've heard about Time of Use plans but they don't seem to fit our lifestyle. See below from SRP portal - I just looked and saw some projections for it but the savings is only projected to be $14 a year at most. And I figured this projection is the best case scenario and worse case would be if we used too much power during the daytime and it would be cost hit. So I never switched. I kind of like that I can do whatever I want without thinking about utility costs.
I find their comparison tool rather useless as it simply applies one's present pattern of usage under the various rate structures. If one were to go on a time of use/demand plan, they would presumably make changes in their lifestyle and usage pattern to maximize their savings with that plan. The tool does not reflect that. I have the SuperSaver demand plan and in comparisons it is always the "best" for me. Of course it is. I work it.
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