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Old 01-08-2013, 03:30 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I'm not saying every South Korea woman who gets plastic surgery and uses skin whitening cream, every Japanese girl who dyes her hair blonde, or every Indian woman who whitens her skin and gets contact lenses consciously wants to be the all-American blonde ideal, but it's clear that typical Asian traits - in South Korea small eyes, and broad noses in SE Asia, as well as dark skin in India, are rarely featured among women who are considered 'beautiful' in those countries. How many 'hot' Korean actresses or pop stars have you seen with slit-like eyes, which are common in Korea? How many Filipino beauties have super-broad noses or dark skin?

I'm not saying it's wrong or these women shouldn't do it, nor that these features are necessarily only European: each Asian group may already have some of these features but few tend to have all of them. Maybe Northern Indian and some Chinese, Japanese and mixed Filipinos. If this wasn't the case, than vast numbers of women in S.Korea wouldn't be getting eye surgery.

I remember a film about Genghis Khan where it said in Mongolia the most beautiful women had the smallest eyes. Not sure if it that was true for the time, but I do wonder if beauty is as innate as people say it is. I admit I'm not attracted to strongly Mongoloid features myself, and there are PLENTY of natural Asians who are attractive. I've just noticed all the Asian contestants in the Miss Universe contest do not look like the average women of their countries.

 
Old 01-08-2013, 03:40 AM
kyh
 
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I think being fair-skinned has long been a beauty standard for Asian races since historical times, and IMO has got nothing to do with the Western perspective.

However, having double eyelids, a high and narrow nose bridge, voluptuous, curvy figures, long legs etc... All these are Western standards of beauty.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 03:48 AM
 
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I think being fair-skinned has long been a beauty standard for Asian races since historical times, and IMO has got nothing to do with the Western perspective.

However, having double eyelids, a high and narrow nose bridge, voluptuous, curvy figures, long legs etc... All these are Western standards of beauty.
Yes, it's not ONLY about skin colour, which some fail to realise. A Korean woman can have porcelain skin yet have a round, broad face, slit like eyes, single-eyelids, a low nose bridge, even broadish nose - in other words not resemble a Northern European woman at all. If you'll notice, many of those old Chinese or Japanese paintings feature women with very small eyes, so I think the idea that big eyes are universally beautiful wasn't the case in ancient China. The original Chinese were like Tibetans so generally had small eyes. Southern Chinese are a different matter.

Some of the things you mention, like having long legs, are also kind of a modern thing IMO. Indeed the standards of Western beauty have changed a lot in the past 100 years. The only thing which is different in Asia is, ironically, a preference for paler skin than the tanned skin in say the US.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Charlotte North Carolina
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I'm not saying every South Korea woman who gets plastic surgery and uses skin whitening cream, every Japanese girl who dyes her hair blonde, or every Indian woman who whitens her skin and gets contact lenses consciously wants to be the all-American blonde ideal, but it's clear that typical Asian traits - in South Korea small eyes, and broad noses in SE Asia, as well as dark skin in India, are rarely featured among women who are considered 'beautiful' in those countries. How many 'hot' Korean actresses or pop stars have you seen with slit-like eyes, which are common in Korea? How many Filipino beauties have super-broad noses or dark skin?

I'm not saying it's wrong or these women shouldn't do it, nor that these features are necessarily only European: each Asian group may already have some of these features but few tend to have all of them. Maybe Northern Indian and some Chinese, Japanese and mixed Filipinos. If this wasn't the case, than vast numbers of women in S.Korea wouldn't be getting eye surgery.

I remember a film about Genghis Khan where it said in Mongolia the most beautiful women had the smallest eyes. Not sure if it that was true for the time, but I do wonder if beauty is as innate as people say it is. I admit I'm not attracted to strongly Mongoloid features myself, and there are PLENTY of natural Asians who are attractive. I've just noticed all the Asian contestants in the Miss Universe contest do not look like the average women of their countries.
You have a broad sense of stereotyping caricture like images
most filipinos have flat nose...but I havent met any filipino with this superbroad nose you talk about
many NEAsians have small eyes...though I have never met anyone with slit eyes like you talk about
 
Old 01-08-2013, 06:42 AM
 
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You have a broad sense of stereotyping caricture like images
most filipinos have flat nose...but I havent met any filipino with this superbroad nose you talk about
many NEAsians have small eyes...though I have never met anyone with slit eyes like you talk about
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Many Filipinos have noses like hers (no I don't know her personally, picked her at random). How often do you see a model with such a nose?

Shirley Bircher: Mongolia- Social Networking

Though smiling the people in the second photo are what i'm talking about. Couldn't imbed images cos I'd get in trouble for copyright.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 06:50 AM
 
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Many Filipinos have noses like hers (no I don't know her personally, picked her at random). How often do you see a model with such a nose?

Shirley Bircher: Mongolia- Social Networking

Though smiling the people in the second photo are what i'm talking about. Couldn't imbed images cos I'd get in trouble for copyright.

again where is the super broad nose??

that woman has a flat nose

many filipinos have even noses like this...and she is rural




even when white people smile their eyes go like that...whats your point
 
Old 01-08-2013, 06:54 AM
 
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I'd say it's pretty broad. Flat noses like that are typical SE Asia and Southern China. Most Chinese, Filipino, Thai beauty queens, actresses, models do not have very flat noses.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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I'd say it's pretty broad. Flat noses like that are typical SE Asia and Southern China. Most Chinese, Filipino, Thai beauty queens, actresses, models do not have very flat noses.
its not very broad at all....its just flat

 
Old 01-08-2013, 08:09 AM
 
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However, having double eyelids, a high and narrow nose bridge, voluptuous, curvy figures, long legs etc... All these are Western standards of beauty.
Well, I'd say 'perceived' western standards of beauty, from Asia.

Meanwhile, it seems that most westerners find Asian women quite attractive - slim figures, 'exotic' features, etc.

I've met many western women come over to Asia, and complain they just can't compete with the 'cute' factor of Asian girls, etc.

On the other hand, some western men do want a 'western' woman. But usually it's because of cultural reasons. Nothing to do with aesthetics.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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upperclass chinese or korean filipina @ charity work:


real filipino noses:
http://johnryanrecabar.files.wordpre...delo-pidoy.jpg
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/i...78ebcadf/l.jpg

Nose is as wide as their mouth. ejay1 should stop being delusional. You already lied that a Korean family is a typical rural Filipino look in the Philippines. Why should we believe you now?
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