Social liberalism=westernization? (life, country, cons, vs)

[MrJester]

I disagree, but it seems like many posters think that the more socially liberal an Asian country is, the more Western it is.

But by this logic, then a socially conservative state like Oklahoma is less westernized than a socially liberal state like California. And a relatively conservative country like the USA would be less westernized than a more liberal country like Canada or Germany.

Do you seriously think Oklahoma is less westernized than California?

[Bettafish]

The concept of liberal vs conservative does not fit in Asia.

Japan is more socially conservative than China in many aspects, but it is more politically westernized for sure.

[MrJester]

Originally Posted by Bettafish

The concept of liberal vs conservative does not fit in Asia.

Japan is more socially conservative than China in many aspects, but it is more politically westernized for sure.

Would you say that Singapore is even more socially conservative than Japan? Which is more westernized?

[Greysholic]

Originally Posted by Bettafish

The concept of liberal vs conservative does not fit in Asia.

Of course it does. It's just that all countries are conservative.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by MrJester

Would you say that Singapore is even more socially conservative than Japan? Which is more westernized?

How do you define "Westernized" in this aspect?

Singapore may be more Westernized in the sense that English is more widely spoken than in Japan, but it has tighter controls on the press and has many more stringent laws governing public behavior, with financial penalties (Singapore is a "fine" country).

[MrJester]

Originally Posted by silverkris

How do you define "Westernized" in this aspect?

Singapore may be more Westernized in the sense that English is more widely spoken than in Japan, but it has tighter controls on the press and has many more stringent laws governing public behavior, with financial penalties (Singapore is a "fine" country).

Forget the laws. The average Singaporean is far more westernized in terms of their family life, in terms of their relationships, in terms of their aesthetics, than the average Japanese.

Not saying it's good or bad, just saying.

[Tomboy-]

No need to forget the laws, Singaporean laws are from England's laws but not modern.

[payutenyodagimas]

Originally Posted by Tomboy-

No need to forget the laws, Singaporean laws are from England's laws but not modern.

England's colonial laws