Why does China require a permit to visit Xizang/Tibet? (life, train)
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Tibetans have no access to weapons. plus, as long as the dalai llama is alive, the tibetans will not rebel or become militant.
If you would somehow smuggle weapons into tibet, and an insurgency started, you could make a fortune weapons trafficking.
Yeah, I actually don't really care. The Tibetans arent being massacred or anything so at least that's a plus? I still do find it sad that the Dalai Llama can't live in the land he calls home.
Yeah, I actually don't really care. The Tibetans arent being massacred or anything so at least that's a plus? I still do find it sad that the Dalai Llama can't live in the land he calls home.
Other major and well-known examples would be Afghanistan during the Soviet years, Nicaragua in the 80's, the 1976 Argentinian coup, the 1973 Chilean coup that replaced socialist Allende with corrupt dictator Pinochet. It also worked with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan rebels in 1956.
The US didn't engage in the imperialism and colonialism that old world powers like the UK and France did, but that doesn't mean it didn't use its resources to try to shape the world into what it deemed in its best interests. The postwar red scare and wrangling with the Soviet Union for world hegemony was the main driving force for all this.
China's big fear is that the US recognizes China as an economic threat and also a threat to the US-friendly status quo in Southeast Asia and would decide to act to destabilize it. Neither the US nor China has any desire to get into a conventional war with each other, nor would they, but both nations are more than happy to use covert operations against one another where it will benefit them. The CIA's M.O. is to arm dissidents, and let them do what they will. Now, I think that a CIA operation on the scale of Afghanistan or Cuba would be off the table because China is waaaaay too big a trading partner, the US' economy can't really support major operations at this point, and the government is much more fragmented than it was in previous decades, but at the same time, Afghanistan was a nearly-open operation against the then-still-powerful USSR, and they didn't seem to care much about that, and Iraq 2 happened against the will of the rest of the world. If the CIA started training and arming Xinjiang and Tibetan separatists against the PRC, this could destabilize China in many different ways; of course, neither group would ever manage to gain independence, and the US, quite frankly, could care less whether or not they did... but, the goal would be to divert China's attention and resources from its economy to maintaining power in these regions, and a civil war is certainly one way to go about doing that.
A lot of people in the US and friendly nations will wax over what the US did to other countries through the CIA; a lot of people who are critical of the US will wax over what the USSR did to other countries through the KGB and its other intelligence arms, which was basically exactly the same thing.
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Yeah I read that you just have to get it through an authorized tourist company. Are PRC citizens subject to the same restrictions to just travel?
Yes.
If my fiance and I wanted to travel to Tibet, we would both have to get visas to do so. It'd probably be easier for her than for me, though at this time there isn't too much Tibet-mania going on in the West, I have zero attachment to the US gov't or media, and am on no special watch lists, so it would still probably be quite easy.
It's way different here than the US... I explained to my fiance early on that you can move from state to state freely, and to get residency there, you just rent an apartment and get a job. In China, you have to apply to (legally) work in another province, but you are still a citizen/resident of your home province. Here's the wiki:
IF there one country the US should have invaded and annexed, it is Cuba. That's prime real estate 90 miles from Florida. You can grow almost everything fruit, sugar, and coffee that the US imports. It prime beach front. Its unbelievable that the US keeps a communist country on its doorstep. There's so much potential there. Cuba should be a commonwealth of the United States.
ITs like Pennyone and bottelli wanting the PRC to invade Taiwan.
This is the kind of western attitude that gets more crackdown in Tibet, and in the end, only the Tibetan people suffer. All you do-gooder Tibet-freaks actually have no clue what's really going on, but I bet you don't really care anyway (though so). The Tibet issue is just a "cause of the day" for most fun-seeking college kids with too much time on their hands. Once they graduate and have to find a payng job in a tight market, Tibet will be very far from their minds. In the end, only the Chinese themselves can improve Tibet.
IF there one country the US should have invaded and annexed, it is Cuba. That's prime real estate 90 miles from Florida. You can grow almost everything fruit, sugar, and coffee that the US imports. It prime beach front. Its unbelievable that the US keeps a communist country on its doorstep. There's so much potential there. Cuba should be a commonwealth of the United States.
ITs like Pennyone and bottelli wanting the PRC to invade Taiwan.
No I don't. In fact, I don't care much about Taiwan. But I also don't think Taiwan warrants the kind of attention from such important countries like the US and China. The best case scenario is for Taiwan to become an unimportant backwater of the imaginary "ROC" polity that nobody wants, and then, it can have its independence and nobody would care.
Quite frankly, so long as taiwan is never allowed to do anything threatening to China's safety or area integrity, I dont think the Chinese leadership really care too much either. If it becomes abase for japanese or US subversion against China, of course, it will be destroyed.neutralized. So, much of what happens to taiwan in the future is in tainwan's hands because the lines are pretty clear.
"I still do find it sad that the Dalai Llama can't live in the land he calls home.".....
That's because he made the suicidal mistake of leading a rebellion back in the late 1950's, and then failing that, he escaped like a impotent coward instead of standing his ground with his own people and dealing with the Chinese like a true god-king. He abandoned his own people and you still think he is some kind of a hero? Now he is sitting pretty, going around the world taking honorary teaching titles and uttering cryptic New Age crap that only New Age nutcases believe in, bashing China and telling lies about "genocide" when the Tibetan population is far healthier and more numerous today than when he and his pedophile lamas were the ruling elite. He is in his current predicament because of his own actions.
Botticelli never said such thing though. He's just annoyed by the fact that pretty much everyone here likes Japan a lot more than China, lol.
You are right. I consider Taiwan a country of its own, and I wouldn't support any military action against it due to some unification dream. Taiwan is doing fine now, and if its people want to join China some day, great, otherwise it should be allowed to go separate ways.
You may consider me a "nationalist", but to be honestly, if I were a Taiwanese, I wouldn't want to be part of the PRC anytime soon either.
As to Japan, I actually like it a lot, specially after a trip last year. In Tokyo, I was thinking, this should be what Chinese cities aim for: clean, vibrant, safe, orderly. Why can't the Chinese behave more like civilized people?
But I who have a problem with people who "love" Japan for many superficial reasons, such as the Japanese "culture" is so superior (or cute), the Japanese food is so classy and high end, and everything Japanese is so good and fascinating, then look down upon countries like China with disdaine which obviously has a much far richer and more diverse culture and food scene, the reason being simply what I mentioned - that Japan is cleaner, more orderly and in general more pleasant. These people have a shallow understanding about things like culture and can't look beyond the surface. It is like saying Zurich has better culture and is more interesting than Rome, just because the latter is dirtier and messier.
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