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HK is a very divided society. The HK and Beijing governments' responses have wide support from millions of HK Chinese and businesses looking for peace and money to come back, supporters include both HK billionaires and broke people. Foreigners may not know the opinions of these millions of Cantonese speaking HK Chinese because of different social circles. Foreigners mostly know only westernised Chinese who are not very rich or Chinese prefer to date with foreigners. Most young Chinese of HK from rich families educated in the west, large western international banks and western bankers in HK are not on the protestors' side.
HK is a very divided society. The HK and Beijing governments' responses have wide support from millions of HK Chinese and businesses looking for peace and money to come back, supporters include both HK billionaires and broke people. Foreigners may not know the opinions of these millions of Cantonese speaking HK Chinese because of different social circles. Foreigners mostly know only westernised Chinese who are not very rich or Chinese prefer to date with foreigners. Most young Chinese of HK from rich families educated in the west, large western international banks and western bankers in HK are not on the protestors' side.
if anything, HK has shown the mainland chinese the result of a divided society as people put politics above everything else (they have also seen it taiwan and the US, but hong kong is closer to home and technically part of china)
an unintended consequence of the "one country two systems" is that it allows people to compare the two systems and to see one system thrives, while the other wither.
if anything, HK has shown the mainland chinese the result of a divided society as people put politics above everything else (they have also seen it taiwan and the US, but hong kong is closer to home and technically part of china)
an unintended consequence of the "one country two systems" is that it allows people to compare the two systems and to see one system thrives, while the other wither.
seems like people beyond the great firewall like democracy more
if anything, HK has shown the mainland chinese the result of a divided society as people put politics above everything else (they have also seen it taiwan and the US, but hong kong is closer to home and technically part of china)
an unintended consequence of the "one country two systems" is that it allows people to compare the two systems and to see one system thrives, while the other wither.
One interesting thing is that the countries the protestors admire are countries with much more regulation and welfare than Hong Kong. But they also know that free markets is Hong Kongs greatest strength, who is going to use Hong Kong as a place to do business if it a regulatory mess like the US? Because of this, they are conflicted and do not know what they want apart from democracy and kicking the mainlanders out.
Despite singing "Glory to Hong Kong" they do not actually love Hong Kong and that is why they are willing to trash it and then run away once China take back control. In comparison, people in my country Norway cooperated with the Germans when they were in power, because they had no intention of running away if things get tough. They only wanted to fight if they knew it could make a difference and they also did not want to abandoned their family and freinds who are not able to leave.
So yes, Hong Kong is a failed experiment, people want the government to control more, even if it does not improve their standard of living.
One interesting thing is that the countries the protestors admire are countries with much more regulation and welfare than Hong Kong. And Hong Kong people have been unhappy for a long time.
Despite singing "Glory to Hong Kong" they do not actually love Hong Kong and that is why they are willing to trash it and then run away once China take back control. In comparison, people in my country Norway cooperated with the Germans when they were in power, because they had no intention of running away if things get tough. They only wanted to fight if they knew it could make a difference.
So yes, Hong Kong is a failed experiment, people want the government to control more, even if it does not improve their standard of living.
There's another word that some have for what you describe, and it's nowhere close to as generative of a narrative that you portray
There's another word that some have for what you describe, and it's nowhere close to as generative of a narrative that you portray
I guess "cowards" or "traitors"?
But that mentality is part of the problem. You need to know when to fight and how to fight. Had Norway constantly fought back, Germany would have just bombed every city till Norway begged for mercy, it was a much better choice to take the fight underground.
And sometimes you lose. For instance if you are an anti-russia person in Crimea, the best thing you can do is to just accept it and try to enjoy your life.
One interesting thing is that the countries the protestors admire are countries with much more regulation and welfare than Hong Kong. But they also know that free markets is Hong Kongs greatest strength, who is going to use Hong Kong as a place to do business if it a regulatory mess like the US? Because of this, they are conflicted and do not know what they want apart from democracy and kicking the mainlanders out.
Despite singing "Glory to Hong Kong" they do not actually love Hong Kong and that is why they are willing to trash it and then run away once China take back control. In comparison, people in my country Norway cooperated with the Germans when they were in power, because they had no intention of running away if things get tough. They only wanted to fight if they knew it could make a difference and they also did not want to abandoned their family and freinds who are not able to leave.
So yes, Hong Kong is a failed experiment, people want the government to control more, even if it does not improve their standard of living.
in a democracy, there are political parties fighting to gain control of the government/politics. What do places like hong kong, taiwan, and usa have in common? They have two groups of parties/people fighting each other in politics. Sometimes it's 60/40 one way, and then back the other way 8 to 10 years every cycle.
every thing that was done by one party is later undo by the opposing party years later just like clockwork. with this back and forth, we are right back to square one. Think about what this does to the society in terms of growth and progress.
One interesting thing is that the countries the protestors admire are countries with much more regulation and welfare than Hong Kong. But they also know that free markets is Hong Kongs greatest strength, who is going to use Hong Kong as a place to do business if it a regulatory mess like the US? Because of this, they are conflicted and do not know what they want apart from democracy and kicking the mainlanders out.
Despite singing "Glory to Hong Kong" they do not actually love Hong Kong and that is why they are willing to trash it and then run away once China take back control. In comparison, people in my country Norway cooperated with the Germans when they were in power, because they had no intention of running away if things get tough. They only wanted to fight if they knew it could make a difference and they also did not want to abandoned their family and freinds who are not able to leave.
So yes, Hong Kong is a failed experiment, people want the government to control more, even if it does not improve their standard of living.
No wonder you had to leave your home country. No one there would put up with your Nazism and pathetic **********y. You are a ****ing embarrassment.
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if anything, HK has shown the mainland chinese the result of a divided society as people put politics above everything else (they have also seen it taiwan and the US, but hong kong is closer to home and technically part of china)
an unintended consequence of the "one country two systems" is that it allows people to compare the two systems and to see one system thrives, while the other wither.
This has to take the cake as the joke of the year. A country that:
- has modern day extermination camps
- where people **** on the streets
- where the vast majority of population are desparately poor
-where the numbers 89 and 64 are censored
- where drivers kill injured pedestrians to get away with indemnity
- + gazillion other unimaginable, pathetic practices and phenomenons
is a better society than the US or Taiwan? You've got to be as blind and deaf as Helen Keller to believe that. Thrives my ass.
Wait. You are Chinese? I guess you simply have the mental capacity of a pig then, like most of your compatriots.
No wonder you had to leave your home country. No one there would put up with your Nazism and pathetic **********y. You are a ****ing embarrassment.
You have lost your mind.
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