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Old 10-15-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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Right wing sympathisers demonize Gandhi and Nehru with fake history social media forwards in India with distorted historical facts. Recently in Gujarat, some school lesson changed the assassination of Gandhi to Suicide.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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If he was a true Hindu and knew Hindu dharma ( especially Ram's story) , he would have supported an armed struggle against the British. And not begged for freedom for decades. All he did was to appease British and wanted to be politically correct.
Even today, people from India are seen protesting in front of white house for immigration matters and green cards. ( and which is why no one takes them seriously) They should see what teh Muslims and Jews do to promote and safeguard their rights.
Mangal Pandey tried armed struggle in 1857. How did it end up ?
Sri lanka Tamils had armed movement. How did it end up ?

Armed resistance is not a right way to achieve political goals.

By your logic, Martin Luther King Jr. And Nelson Mandela were also begging ?

Having said that, those visa aspirants are certainly begging as aliens in a foreign country. They are not refugees or fleeing persecution, a very difficult case for them.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:38 PM
 
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Mangal Pandey tried armed struggle in 1857. How did it end up ?
Sri lanka Tamils had armed movement. How did it end up ?

Armed resistance is not a right way to achieve political goals.

By your logic, Martin Luther King Jr. And Nelson Mandela were also begging ?

Having said that, those visa aspirants are certainly begging as aliens in a foreign country. They are not refugees or fleeing persecution, a very difficult case for them.

indians were not united in 1857. Some wanted the moguls to come back. You think sikhs are marathis wanted to moguls to come back? None of the leaders had a united front.


sri lanka Tamils had everything they wanted and they did not sue for peace. Their leader was high on power. The sri lankan government was even ready to make peace.


Bose would have been corrupted by absolute power. Ghandi was good for the getting the british out but partition was the price.


May be one the the followers of the bedoiun will realize that these is no god and reunify.
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Old 10-16-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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Mahatma Ghandi was a rank racist.

Just like MLK (who were are learning more about now that FBI tapes transcript details are being released), his otherwise laudable work is tarnished by some of his beliefs (and, in the case of Dr. King, actions).
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Old 10-17-2019, 12:24 PM
 
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Mahatma Ghandi was a rank racist.

Just like MLK (who were are learning more about now that FBI tapes transcript details are being released), his otherwise laudable work is tarnished by some of his beliefs (and, in the case of Dr. King, actions).
The problem is time gap. If you pick and choose some incident from late 1800s and hold it against 2019 values, then one can cry racism even though that might be a very liberal thought in those days.
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Old 10-17-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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The problem is time gap. If you pick and choose some incident from late 1800s and hold it against 2019 values, then one can cry racism even though that might be a very liberal thought in those days.
Even in the 1800s you had plenty of people speaking out against racism and in favor of racial equality.
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:50 AM
 
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Mahatma Ghandi was a rank racist.

Just like MLK (who were are learning more about now that FBI tapes transcript details are being released), his otherwise laudable work is tarnished by some of his beliefs (and, in the case of Dr. King, actions).
In other words, they were human.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Right wing sympathisers demonize Gandhi and Nehru with fake history social media forwards in India with distorted historical facts. Recently in Gujarat, some school lesson changed the assassination of Gandhi to Suicide.
Distorting history is not new to India. I have only learnt Mughals and British were saviours of the country who encouraged art, education and supported the people.

Suicide ? LOL . That is a new high even for Bhakts.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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In other words, they were human.
So let's treat them as human and not some saints.

And not every human is racist or rapes, then or now.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:51 AM
 
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I was surprised to see the name of Jose Rizal while opening a thread about Gandhi...I often give Rizal, Gandhi and also the congoan Patrice Lumumba as an example of piece activists against western imperialism - few countries have this type of revolutionaries, most revolutionaries are thugs even if they're as intelligent as Che Guevara or still somewhat 'hard to understand' (for the lack of better words) like Yukio Mishina.
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