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Old 11-24-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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It's hard to make sense of your thread OP due to the changing text, embedded pictures, and the digression into history that really has nothing to do with your theme. Yes we know the topic - US treats Philippines like garbage. We got that. You forgot to explain WHY you think "the US treats the Philippines like garbage" except for some examples from 70 years ago. You want to take another shot at it?
There are far more recent examples too. The USA for example supported Ferdinand Marcos the dictator.who looted and corrupted the Philippines by giving him Assylum in Hawaii and escorted him out of the country using American Military Helicopters in the midst of the People Power Revolution.

Also, they didn't give a damn during the previous administration of Crypto-Muslim President, Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

He militarily supported Japan's dispute against China in the Sengaku Islands...

Obama says the US will defend Japan in island disputes with China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ute-with-china

But turns around and doesn't lift a finger to help the Philippines during the military confrontation that occured between the Philippines and China in the Spratlys.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/04/2...-against-china

Americans, at least your government are Satan worshipping whores.

Rushing to the defence of former enemy Japan which massacred Americans En Mass in WW2. While destroying the first Philippine Republic established on Revolutionary Ideals formed by the American War of independence. The Filipinos never attacked American territory while Japan did yet Obama supported Japan vs China while left us alone against China.

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Also in regards to your reference to WW2:
1.) Bombed your capital Manila in the retaking of the capital. You think just maybe the Japanese that held the capital and turned it into a fortress had a bit to do with it? When Japan invaded we declared Manila an open city and retreated rather then see it destroyed. When we retook the Philippines, japan fortified Manila and wanted to fight to the death house to house. At the same time Japanese were massacring civilians. I got a novel idea for you - blame the country that was occupying your city by force and massacring your people - the Japanese. What exactly are they teaching you in history class?
2.) More than twenty-five thousand dead Americans fell in the Philippines both during the japanese invasion in 1941-42 and the allied liberation in 1944, a further forty to seventy thousand were wounded. This does not include those that were murdered or tortured to death in POW camps or fell out by the 100s and bayoneted with fellow Filipino troops in the Bataan Death March - Probably you should be down on your knees giving thanks to us right now. YOU ARE WELCOME.

There may be good examples of US treating the Philippines badly, I can't think of a few. But WW2 is like the last example in the world you want to use.
What part of of the sentence did you NOT understand before? Japan would not have attacked us if there were no Europeans or Americans here in the first place, Thailand was independent and not colonized by Western powers and they were spared an attack from Japan and was even allied to her.

Also many more Filipinos died protecting Americans than Vice Versa.

In the Bataan Death March alone,, 66,000 were Filipinos and only 10,000 were American.

Also, why did Barack Obama say America will support Japan in a war against China but gave zero support to the Philippines' case against China.


https://globalnation.inquirer.net/10...s-to-defend-ph
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Old 11-24-2019, 08:13 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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That bull. The Japanese wanted oil and they looked south where the Philippines and other oil producing countries are. They would have invaded the Pinays anyway and Australia in the long run.
Invade how? If we were an independent country in Southeast Asia like what happened in Thailand which was an ally of Japan, we would either be neutral or allied to them, no need for an invasion.

But we already have partial European or Latin American descent anyway so we would be inimical to Japan because of our Christianity and Westernization. But the Japanese did send weapons to us in our revolution against Spain.

We could have easily been a Mixed Raced Asian nation allied to Japan then.
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Invade how? If we were an independent country in Southeast Asia like what happened in Thailand which was an ally of Japan, we would either be neutral or allied to them, no need for an invasion.

But we already have partial European or Latin American descent anyway so we would be inimical to Japan because of our Christianity and Westernization. But the Japanese did send weapons to us in our revolution against Spain.

We could have easily been a Mixed Raced Asian nation allied to Japan then.



This is what holds the islands of king phillip of spain back. You're white savior inferiority complex. Its always about how much european blood you have or following the ways of the roman empire psy op instead focusing on stuff that matters like eskrima.



The bedoiuns and spaniards ruined pinoy food. It's not spicy like the rest southeast asia. Its all stewy and gross. Indonesian and malaysian food is tasty as least even though they follow the ways of bedoiun and have forgotten the ways of the majapahit.



Duerte was right in renaming the country. You should return to ways of garuda like the rajahnates of tondo and cebu or move toward godlessness.


You want respect. Respect your pagan roots first, rename your county, put the coconut curry back in your food, and stop eating balut. Only then will you know true freedom and get repect.

rise above. break the cycle. focus on science.


what would lapu lapu?


A unified southeast asia with garuda on the flag
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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There are far more recent examples too. The USA for example supported Ferdinand Marcos the dictator.who looted and corrupted the Philippines by giving him Assylum in Hawaii and escorted him out of the country using American Military Helicopters in the midst of the People Power Revolution.

Also, they didn't give a damn during the previous administration of Crypto-Muslim President, Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

He militarily supported Japan's dispute against China in the Sengaku Islands...

Obama says the US will defend Japan in island disputes with China

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ute-with-china

But turns around and doesn't lift a finger to help the Philippines during the military confrontation that occured between the Philippines and China in the Spratlys.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/nation/04/2...-against-china

Americans, at least your government are Satan worshipping whores.

Rushing to the defence of former enemy Japan which massacred Americans En Mass in WW2. While destroying the first Philippine Republic established on Revolutionary Ideals formed by the American War of independence. The Filipinos never attacked American territory while Japan did yet Obama supported Japan vs China while left us alone against China.



What part of of the sentence did you NOT understand before? Japan would not have attacked us if there were no Europeans or Americans here in the first place, Thailand was independent and not colonized by Western powers and they were spared an attack from Japan and was even allied to her.

Also many more Filipinos died protecting Americans than Vice Versa.

In the Bataan Death March alone,, 66,000 were Filipinos and only 10,000 were American.

Also, why did Barack Obama say America will support Japan in a war against China but gave zero support to the Philippines' case against China.


https://globalnation.inquirer.net/10...s-to-defend-ph
Regarding Marcos:
I disagree - The US offered Marcos a clean way out. We essentially told him it was time to go. Marcos was in "fight or flight" mode. He still controlled the military and was still prepared to fight. You may not have liked that he left but the offer of asylum probably saved your country from going into civil war and costing many lives. The US supported his successor Aquino.

Regarding China and military support.
Again disagreement. The mutual defense treaty between the U.S. and the Philippines still exist. If the Philipines it attacked, the US will defend and die for your country. The Spratley islands is another matter, the ownership is somewhat ambiguous and in dispute. We will not go to war for control of sand atolls sorry. However the U.S. has diplomatically supported our allies in regards to control of these spits of sand.

Regarding WWII and Japan.
Disagree. Japan strategy for expansion was focused on hegemony in the far east and sources of materials (oil, etc.). It did not matter who controlled what country or what western power managed the country. It didn't matter with China or Manchuria, or Thailand which was actually invaded by Japan and then became a Japanese puppet state. What do you think would have happened with a independent Philippines, you would stay neutral or left alone because no Americans were there? That is amazingly naive. Philippines was the front lines to the rest of the pacific and was a vital supply link to the oil resources in Malaysia. You would have been invaded by Japan regardless, your people would be massacred if they resisted an any way, then you would be the same puppet state. The only difference is you would have been perceived as then an enemy to the US, not an ally. You tell me how that would have worked in post war politics.

Regarding the "crypto-muslim" former president Obama:
HAHA, no comment. I didn't like him as president either.
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Old 11-24-2019, 07:09 PM
 
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We don't have a white savior complex there were no freaking white saviors to save us. Even in World War 2, we wouldn't need saving from the Japanese had there been no Europeans or Americans here in the first place. Yet it's actually the reverse, we were saviors to two countries in America, Mexico and the US. Filipinos became soldiers and one even was a general in the Mexican revolution while Filipinos I.E. Manilamen fought with the Americans against a re-invading Britain in the war of 1812. Most of the soldiers who fought for America in the Pacific Theatre of World War 2 were actually born in the Philippines and we had to suffer the most under Japanese occupation while their fat safe pansy asses chilled in the US mainland which was untouched by war.

We can't change the past though.

At the very least I expect a sense of shame stemming from common decency from Americans here.

But apparently judging from the two threads they made while ignoring this (One thread was even about a man asking what kind of gift he should give to his Thai Prostitute). Americans have zero sense of shame or remorse, I pray that they will change because if they don't God will give them hell.

As for us we are a forgiving bunch, these shameless criminals just need to repent and ask forgiveness and we will freely give it. Instead, nada zilch.
whateverz d00d. y'alls haz a white skin complex. every girl wants to bleach their skin to be whiter.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:01 PM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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See how no matter what we do we will always be criticised?

Dangerous-Boy said that we have a White Savior Complex and we are better off without America, westerization, European mixture and culture. That, we were better as a United Asia...

Next...

Dd714, said that we were better off because of Westernization and Americans...

Damned if you do damned if you don't.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:03 PM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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whateverz d00d. y'alls haz a white skin complex. every girl wants to bleach their skin to be whiter.
What a shallow reason. We all know how tanning salons and sunbathing are popular in the West do I claim that you have tanned skin complex?
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Old 11-25-2019, 01:00 AM
 
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Exactly, that's a human thing, unsatisfied with what they have. Caucasians wanting to be brown, and Austronesians wanting to be white. It is not a Filipino trait, it is a human trait. Lol. For me being white per se is a bit too much, a fair-skinned brown leaning towards being light would do. That includes the psychological part of it.
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Old 11-25-2019, 03:21 AM
 
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Dd714, said that we were better off because of Westernization and Americans...
Huh? I never said anything of that sort.
I disagreed with the conclusions of your original post (that which I could understand because your writing style tend to wander into incomprehension) because it was historically and factually incorrect, but that is far removed from saying you were better off because....
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:00 PM
 
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See how no matter what we do we will always be criticised?

Dangerous-Boy said that we have a White Savior Complex and we are better off without America, westerization, European mixture and culture. That, we were better as a United Asia...

Next...

Dd714, said that we were better off because of Westernization and Americans...

Damned if you do damned if you don't.

I never said that you are better off without america or westernization. You take the worst aspects of westernization like adopting the roman empire psy op ideology instead of the good parts like the English language and focusing on science. You do have white savior inferiority complex. Pinoys make topics on city data on how pinoys have so much euro blood and look european and its a source of pride.



The only pride you should have as a pinoy is eskrima. The islands of king phillip of spain barely try to preserve it while the indonesians and malaysians try to promote it.


I say return to garuda and the pagans ways or godlessness. Shed the ways of the spaniard and the bedoiun. They bring nothing but strife to the region. Put the coconut curry back in pinoy food.



Rise above, break the cycle. focus on science.
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