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Old 02-26-2020, 07:43 PM
 
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I was wondering the other day. Islamic invaders used to forcibly convert or tax the nonbelievers. Since Muslim palestinians already don't eat pork, are circumcised, wear skull caps, why not just convert to Judaism? Then wouldn't they get the right to return in 2 generations under israeli law since they are jewish? That loves the whole religion problem. For the christian ones, its ironic that born again john 3:16 bible thumpers support the jewish israelis instead of fellow xtian palestinians.
They're the wrong ethnicity.

'Palestinian requests to convert to Judaism rejected automatically'
Rabbi Yitzhak Peretz, director of the Israeli government’s Conversion Authority, made the statement earlier this week, according to NRG.
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:46 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I was wondering the other day. Islamic invaders used to forcibly convert or tax the nonbelievers. Since Muslim palestinians already don't eat pork, are circumcised, wear skull caps, why not just convert to Judaism? Then wouldn't they get the right to return in 2 generations under israeli law since they are jewish? That loves the whole religion problem. For the christian ones, its ironic that born again john 3:16 bible thumpers support the jewish israelis instead of fellow xtian palestinians.
Christian Palestinians support Muslim Palestinians in their causes more than following Christianity itself. Even the one's in Lebanon leans in this direction. The Palestinians as a whole caused enough problems that Lebanon had started building a wall around them.

https://english.palinfo.com/news/201...lestinian-camp
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Old 02-26-2020, 08:50 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Palestine is the Warsaw Ghetto of the Middle East where millions of undesirables are awaiting deportation from the land of their birth because they're the wrong religion and ethnicity.
As there are nearly two Million of them living within Israel itself, it evident that it's more than religion and ethnicity.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:15 AM
 
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Palestine is the Warsaw Ghetto of the Middle East where millions of undesirables are awaiting deportation from the land of their birth because they're the wrong religion and ethnicity.
Palestine resembles a ghetto, I would agree with that, as poverty stricken as it is.
I don't understand the deportation comment. No one is deporting anyone from Palestine, maybe you mean Palestinians from within Israel. Maybe Jerusalem who's governance is disputed. The opposite is actually an issue - Palestinians have difficullty traveling because it's a non-member UN state.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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well, then that's racist. Conversion to judaism would solve some of the problems
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Old 05-24-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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Israel is a Jewish ethnostate on historically-Jewish lands that was carved out of lands occupied by the Palestinians in the earlier part of the 20th century.
Actually before the establishment of the State of Israel 1948, the Jewish occupants of Palestine were known as Palestinians (rather than the Arab ones).
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:14 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Germany did terrible things to the Jewish people. So the winning WW2 White nations decided to push Arabs out of Palestine to make a space for Jews to have their own state. I feel for Jews who have been persecuted so many times when living as a minority. I also feel for Palestinians whose lives were disrupted and now live in permanent house arrest.

It would be like punishing the Spanish and English for displacing Native Americans by taking 90% of Poland as Native American land.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:32 AM
 
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Who cares, Israel > Palestine. Or give them 2 state solutions or make sure Israel gets as much land as possible, here's also great Israeli song, the girl is a tremendous singer:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFAGsgYwhaY
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Old 05-26-2020, 06:31 PM
 
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Germany did terrible things to the Jewish people. So the winning WW2 White nations decided to push Arabs out of Palestine to make a space for Jews to have their own state. I feel for Jews who have been persecuted so many times when living as a minority. I also feel for Palestinians whose lives were disrupted and now live in permanent house arrest.

It would be like punishing the Spanish and English for displacing Native Americans by taking 90% of Poland as Native American land.
You don't seem to understand the context of the region, if that's the analogy you're using. Jews have been wanting to return to their ancestral homeland ever since they got kicked out. That is the historic land of Israel. The modern Zionist movement was spearheaded by a man named Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century. All of that long predates the events that transpired in Nazi Germany during the 30's and 40's. You could argue that it was the final catalyst, but the 1917 Balfour Declaration already announced put those plans into motion beforehand.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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Germany did terrible things to the Jewish people. So the winning WW2 White nations decided to push Arabs out of Palestine to make a space for Jews to have their own state. I feel for Jews who have been persecuted so many times when living as a minority. I also feel for Palestinians whose lives were disrupted and now live in permanent house arrest.

It would be like punishing the Spanish and English for displacing Native Americans by taking 90% of Poland as Native American land.
Arabs weren't "pushed out". Jews were always in Palestine, even the few centuries before WW2 and, obviously, date back to ancient times. Palestine was UK managed since WW1, with provisions for a jewish state at that time. They were a minority, Arabs simply didn't like it when they became a majority after WW2. Still the UK proposed a seperation of states - Jews and Arabs, jews wanted independence and created the State of Israel. Arab ruled Palestine was still there. Arabs also lived in what is now the state of Israel, but now as a minority. No problem, except that Arabs declared war with the objective to destroy the jewish state. That has been there objective since.
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