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Old 05-25-2020, 10:13 PM
 
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My wife and I are doing all we can to NOT buy any more Made in China CRAP. Now we're seeing sneaky "Packaged in America." ???
I wonder if the chinese will start doing the same thing knowing how the americans are hating them. will they do all they can to stop going to shopping in walmarts and costcos, stop eating at mcdonalds, kfc, burger king, pizza hut, papa john's, etc. and stop drinking coca cola.
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Old 05-25-2020, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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My wife and I are doing all we can to NOT buy any more Made in China CRAP. Now we're seeing sneaky "Packaged in America." ???
Also “made in USA” from sourced materials.
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I wonder if the chinese will start doing the same thing knowing how the americans are hating them. will they do all they can to stop going to shopping in walmarts and costcos, stop eating at mcdonalds, kfc, burger king, pizza hut, papa john's, etc. and stop drinking coca cola.

all it takes is a tweet from DJT.


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https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52808177
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Old 05-26-2020, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I wonder if the chinese will start doing the same thing knowing how the americans are hating them. will they do all they can to stop going to shopping in walmarts and costcos, stop eating at mcdonalds, kfc, burger king, pizza hut, papa john's, etc. and stop drinking coca cola.
Most people already shop at Chinese-owned grocery stores.

McD's, KFC, Pizza Hut, and Coca Cola are all woven into the national fabric at this point, no one really thinks of them as American and the Chinese competitors are generally really bad (one exception is Champion Pizza, I like them more than local Pizza Hut, but Tom & Tom is terrible). If they do decide to boycott, whatever.

Because China requires foreign companies to enter the chinese market with a Chinese investor as a proxy and almlat all the products they sell are made domestically, it will hurt far, far more locals than it will Americans.
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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So why is Macau still thriving but HK is supposedly going to hell?
A point I never see discussed by the pro-Hong Kong crowd.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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A point I never see discussed by the pro-Hong Kong crowd.
Macau is tiny; it's the size of a district in Shenzhen or Guangzhou. HK is much larger (while still admittedly small, in the grand scheme of things). You can walk from the tip of the peninsula to the Chinese border in about 30 minutes. It's economy revolves around gambling and tourism. HK is much more dynamic economy and society than Macau.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Macau is tiny; it's the size of a district in Shenzhen or Guangzhou. HK is much larger (while still admittedly small, in the grand scheme of things). You can walk from the tip of the peninsula to the Chinese border in about 30 minutes. It's economy revolves around gambling and tourism. HK is much more dynamic economy and society than Macau.
True. But other cities under the purview of the PRC and outside of the two systems model are doing just fine, financially. Shanghai is a major economic powerhouse of its own, even bigger than Hong Kong. Beijing is only a little behind Hong Kong.

I'm not saying that only financial concerns matter to the Hong Kong protesters. And, to be sure, Macau seems to be enjoying more success and less distress under the two systems models in large part (from what I gather) because the city has a large amount of mainland residents living there now, and they brought their mainland way of thinking. That said, Macau has accepted PRC intrusions for a while now and without all of the push back that we see coming from Hong Kong.
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:09 PM
 
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Hong Kongs rise was due to being the gateway to China. It was a place where you could be closely linked to the Chinese market and at the same time enjoy western laws and thinking.

In my opinion Hong Kong people did not understand their advantage, and this goes further than the protest. One of the thing I noticed back in 2010 was that a lot of people do not understand English or Mandarin. It made no sense to me, how can an international city be so weak in languages? If a western company could go to Hong Kong, and any employee could act as a translator between the western company and a mainland company, then a lot of companies would pick Hong Kong as the place to do business with China.

A lot of Hong Kong people seem to think that Hong Kongs advantage was purely that they were more western, so any meddling from China would take away their advantage. But that is not true, business do not go to Hong Kong just get a british legal system, then they would just go to Britain. They go to Hong Kong, because its the gateway to China and it has a trustworthy legal system. If you take away the gateway part, then they have no reason to do business in Hong Kong.

When Hong Kong started to push away mainland tourists, investors and diversify away from China, they removed their biggest advantage and replaced it with nothing. That is why Hong Kong is failing.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Hong Kongs rise was due to being the gateway to China. It was a place where you could be closely linked to the Chinese market and at the same time enjoy western laws and thinking.

In my opinion Hong Kong people did not understand their advantage, and this goes further than the protest. One of the thing I noticed back in 2010 was that a lot of people do not understand English or Mandarin. It made no sense to me, how can an international city be so weak in languages? If a western company could go to Hong Kong, and any employee could act as a translator between the western company and a mainland company, then a lot of companies would pick Hong Kong as the place to do business with China.

A lot of Hong Kong people seem to think that Hong Kongs advantage was purely that they were more western, so any meddling from China would take away their advantage. But that is not true, business do not go to Hong Kong just get a british legal system, then they would just go to Britain. They go to Hong Kong, because its the gateway to China and it has a trustworthy legal system. If you take away the gateway part, then they have no reason to do business in Hong Kong.

When Hong Kong started to push away mainland tourists, investors and diversify away from China, they removed their biggest advantage and replaced it with nothing. That is why Hong Kong is failing.
I know right? How dare they dislike China! How dare they voice their discontent! They should be content with their miserable life!

You are so full of ****.
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Old 05-27-2020, 12:12 AM
 
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I know right? How dare they dislike China! How dare they voice their discontent! They should be content with their miserable life!

You are so full of ****.
You realize that Hong Kong is part of China and literally cannot survive without mainland China. Without China, every single industry in Hong Kong will collapse and they will not have enough water or electricity. Biting the hand that feeds you is stupid.

And if their lives are so miserable, then protest that. If 2 million Hong Kong people went out and demanded more public housing, then I am sure more will be built.
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