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I've heard Iranians saying that they look more like Southern Europeans than other Middle Easterners, and that Islam is the only thing they share in common. I've heard Syrians saying the same thing. I've heard Northern Africans saying the same thing.
Some Southern European look like Northern European too, but that come as no surprise. Even though there is a trend in populations' phenotypes, looks are a continuum and some overlapping is a natural occurrence even if the bulk is distinguishable.
I am waiting for K&G to do a vid on the phenotype and geneaology of the various nomadic groups. But here is a good vid about Turks in Anatolia. They appear to be mixed.
Thank you, OP. So you can see, that there are several haplogroups labeled as "Mesopotamian". It's the most dominant group (yellow), and even larger, if you add all the Hg's that include "Mesopotamian" in their description.
So that was what the posters were talking about, on the older thread I mentioned, as Turks being "Middle-Eastern". And then you might add to that the G group "Caucasic, Greco-Anatolian". The Inso-Euro components (R1a, R1b) add up to a much smaller percentage, though still significant, to which one could add the I Hg (pre-Indo-Euro/Nordic).
What made me really curious is why some people tent to "stereotyped" similarities between different ethnic groups based on similarities in culture?
Why not "stereotyped" similarities between different ethnic groups based on genetic or physical appearance?
Oh, I see. So you're complaining about the fact that, because Turkey is mainly an Islamic country, Turks get lumped in with Semitic peoples, mainly Arabs?
Yeah, because....people are ignorant. All most Westerners know about Turkey is that it's Islamic. Well, and the language is an Asiatic one, or non-Indo-Euro, at least. (They may not even be aware that Turkic peoples originated in Inner Asia.)
You're asking for more subtlety in discernment about ethnicity, than the average person is capable of making. Sorry, that's just the way it is. It takes a higher level of education than most people acquire, especially on issues outside of their experience, to be able to avoid stereotyping and have a clear view of certain aspects of reality.
Perhaps your thread should be moved to the Psychology section, lol.
What's true of Turkey could be said about some Central Asians, Northern Berbers, Levantine, and some Iranian peoples. For me Turkey is definitely the most European looking of those groups, but Lebanese are often up there with them, and Kabyle Berbers as well. Many Latinos/Latinas fall into this category as well.
Turks in Europe get otherized because theirs's far more of a distinction between a "German" and a "Russian" or "Spanish" person. But a Turkish girl takes of her hijab (A high percent of them don't wear hijabs in the first place compared to other Islamic countries), 9/10 Americans think she's just a regular white girl.
Turks fall into the category of individuals versus groups. For example you can almost always mistake a certain percentage of Ethiopians and Somalis for West Africans, but in groups it's fairly easy distinction to make. A group of Turkish people may look distinct from other European groups, but in the same way a group of Spaniards look different from a group of Scandinavians, and even English, French, Russian and German peoples have some distinctive-ish looks. Turks fall into this category.
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