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Old 08-06-2022, 11:12 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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As if China's economic and political system were any of our business
Unlike the West, which in its racist imperialist fashion keeps trying to force its sh*t on the whole word, China is not even trying to export its system.

I find it hilarious when people on other continents call China a threat because it refuses our imperialism.
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Old 08-06-2022, 11:20 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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It’s odd that naive people think that capitalism automatically creates democracies. Autocracies and capitalism can mutually co exist. The idea of democratic capitalism is vanishing all over the world and nobody notices.
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Old 08-06-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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It’s odd that naive people think that capitalism automatically creates democracies. Autocracies and capitalism can mutually co exist. The idea of democratic capitalism is vanishing all over the world and nobody notices.
People in the West are simple-minded, they like think in black and white.
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Old 08-06-2022, 11:57 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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You missed my point. The government has never claimed to be anything but Communist. Regardless of the fact that they've allowed a large departure from strict communism, they immediately reign in any portion of the departures they choose. They're not restrained by a commitment to these departures, and not afraid of the consequences of a return to strict communism.
This. I don't know why anyone would expect democratization from a government still claiming to be communist. That is a literal red flag that's hard to miss. Other "red flags" are the Tien An Men debacle, rounding up select minorities into re-education camps, and so much more.
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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This. I don't know why anyone would expect democratization from a government still claiming to be communist. That is a literal red flag that's hard to miss. Other "red flags" are the Tien An Men debacle, rounding up select minorities into re-education camps, and so much more.
You make no sense. China has been democratic for decades. You make the same mistake as everyone else, you think that only Western democracy is democracy. That is wrong, democracy is ancient, the hunters and gatherers already were democratic. It does not take political parties, elections and all that, which is just the Western version of it.

And China is right in keeping the Western system out because it is no good.


Tiananmen was not a debacle, it was a attempted coup by the CIA and the radicals they bribed.
And in hindsight China acted the right way...

Terrorists and potential terrorists have to be taught how to live in society again, what its values and rules are etc. That is not limited to the Uyghurs at all. Reeducation is way better than putting them in jail or dropping bombs on such youngsters, i.e. the US way.
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:32 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Why would the CIA stage a coup against Deng? Until the Massacre, he was popular for opening up Chinas economy and improving relations with the West. The Hong Kong handover was already solidified at that point. You CCP shills are embarrassing yourself and lowering your own credibility to people reading every time you post this nonsense
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:40 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Why would the CIA stage a coup against Deng? Until the Massacre, he was popular for opening up Chinas economy and improving relations with the West. The Hong Kong handover was already solidified at that point. You CCP shills are embarrassing yourself and lowering your own credibility to people reading every time you post this nonsense
It is explained in detail here:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ushed-in-1989/

If you don't care much about the history leading up to 1989, jump to he heading:
Tiananmen Square’s Color Revolution Fail
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:57 PM
 
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You make no sense. China has been democratic for decades. You make the same mistake as everyone else, you think that only Western democracy is democracy. That is wrong, democracy is ancient, the hunters and gatherers already were democratic. It does not take political parties, elections and all that, which is just the Western version of it.

And China is right in keeping the Western system out because it is no good.


Tiananmen was not a debacle, it was a attempted coup by the CIA and the radicals they bribed.
And in hindsight China acted the right way...

Terrorists and potential terrorists have to be taught how to live in society again, what its values and rules are etc. That is not limited to the Uyghurs at all. Reeducation is way better than putting them in jail or dropping bombs on such youngsters, i.e. the US way.
Okay, this pretty much confirms Internet bot status.
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Old 08-06-2022, 03:05 PM
 
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Okay, this pretty much confirms Internet bot status.
So, others are bots if you have no arguments, riiight...
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Old 08-06-2022, 03:55 PM
 
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So, others are bots if you have no arguments, riiight...
There is no argument to sheer freaking fantasy.

You really expect anyone to believe that the CIA has its hooks so successfully deep into China that it could pull off a nationwide resistance movement that culminated in the Tiananmen Square Massacre and yet screwed up figuring out 9/11?

Sorry, but the CIA isn't that good.
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