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We were not talking about helmets for bikers. Here in Europe few bikers wear a helmet, even some motorbike drivers don't, and nobody seems to care. It varies from country to country, i.e. from mentality to mentality.
Motorbike helmets is just one more example of China not enforcing simple laws to prevent deaths. Also don't try to change the topic, the topic is not which country is better and it is not about culture.
The question is, if China cares so much about preventing deaths why aren't safety laws such as motorbike helmets, seatbelts and car safety seats enforced.
You really expect anyone to believe that the CIA has its hooks so successfully deep into China that it could pull off a nationwide resistance movement that culminated in the Tiananmen Square Massacre and yet screwed up figuring out 9/11?
Sorry, but the CIA isn't that good.
I wouldn't say the CIA pull off a nationwide resistance (it wasn't nationwide) in 1989. I don't believe the CIA worked with the students, instead, they worked with a few members of the CCP that opposed deng.
but that's not the worst part. the worst part is that they worked with some hong kong politician since then to
build lies to rally anti chinese movements. This finally came to an end recently with the national security law in hong kong.
before that, CIA/US politicians have close ties with hong kong politicians to use hong kong as an anti chinese base. Now there is only taiwan left.
as for 9/11, remember that the US helped build up the "enemy" to fight russia, just to get burned.
Remember, US teamed with china to win the cold war against the USSR. do you see the similarity now?
You make no sense. China has been democratic for decades. You make the same mistake as everyone else, you think that only Western democracy is democracy. .
China was/is democratic the same way the USSR was. There was only 1 choice on the ballot, and even if most people in a given city or town chose to submit blank ballots, the news sources the next day announced a unanimous vote in favor of the Party's candidate.
You really expect anyone to believe that the CIA has its hooks so successfully deep into China that it could pull off a nationwide resistance movement that culminated in the Tiananmen Square Massacre and yet screwed up figuring out 9/11?
Sorry, but the CIA isn't that good.
Wrong tense. Back then China was indeed open, anyone could go there and instigate people. 33 years ago China was a poor developing country. That's why the CIA was indeed present in China back then and equipping and radicalizing terrorists that had infiltrated peaceful protesters, who were not calling for democracy by the way, but protesting the liberal economic reforms that were leading to social problems.
The CIA's presence is also why they could evacuate those terrorists to the US when the coup attempt failed.
Apart from the student protests there was also a workers' protest at the same time, which few people know.
It was not a nationwide movement. The protests were concentrated in the capital of course. Like in the US, when you want to change something by protesting, you don't protest in Omaha, but go to Washington.
China was/is democratic the same way the USSR was. There was only 1 choice on the ballot, and even if most people in a given city or town chose to submit blank ballots, the news sources the next day announced a unanimous vote in favor of the Party's candidate.
"FORWARD TO THE VICTORY OF SOCIALISM!"
That's not the case at all. On the levels where there is voting, people participate.
China is rather different from the USSR.
On the national level there are no elections in China, but then again, Americans, Canadians, EU citizens etc. don't vote for their presidents either. In the US for instance it is the electoral college that selects the president, not the people. That college can select another candidate than the one who won the election.
I have never met anyone who voted for von der Leyen, who leads the EU now. In Western countries candidates are usually produced by shady scheming within parties. That's why citizens can ultimately only pick the - hopefully - lesser evil.
What I find interesting is that so many ignorant people complain about China's system (as if it were any of their business), but I don't see any threads on, say, Saudi-Arabia, whose system is much less democratic than China's.
That's not the case at all. On the levels where there is voting, people participate.
You are spreading lies. Most people in China don't vote and don't know how to vote. Since you think it is so easy, why don't you show us how, when and where residents in Luohu District in Shenzhen can vote. This is a main district of Shenzhen so it should be much easier there than a random city in China. I will you call you out if you try to change the location to some village you heard in the news, so don't even try.
Also, where is your answer about safety laws in China? How can you argue that China care so much about preventing deaths, when they don't enforce seatbelts, car safety seats and motorbike helmets.
It's the other way around. First comes Democracy, which enables the greedy to grab all the productive capital and exploit the working class..
Capitalism preceded democracy, and it has, can, and does exist in non-democratic societies. It can be argued that capitalists created democracy to make societies safer for capitalism...but that generally only happens when that non-democratic government is unaware what it happening.
You are spreading lies. Most people in China don't vote and don't know how to vote. Since you think it is so easy, why don't you show us how, when and where residents in Luohu District in Shenzhen can vote. This is a main district of Shenzhen so it should be much easier there than a random city in China. I will you call you out if you try to change the location to some village you heard in the news, so don't even try.
Also, where is your answer about safety laws in China? How can you argue that China care so much about preventing deaths, when they don't enforce seatbelts, car safety seats and motorbike helmets.
The thing with Chinese people and wumaos overseas is that they believe their lies to be truth.
That's not the case at all. On the levels where there is voting, people participate.
China is rather different from the USSR.
On the national level there are no elections in China, but then again, Americans, Canadians, EU citizens etc. don't vote for their presidents either. In the US for instance it is the electoral college that selects the president, not the people. That college can select another candidate than the one who won the election.
I have never met anyone who voted for von der Leyen, who leads the EU now. In Western countries candidates are usually produced by shady scheming within parties. That's why citizens can ultimately only pick the - hopefully - lesser evil.
What I find interesting is that so many ignorant people complain about China's system (as if it were any of their business), but I don't see any threads on, say, Saudi-Arabia, whose system is much less democratic than China's.
Good points.
However, where I diverge from you is that I don't believe that the people at large could vote to dismantle the PRC's governmental system even if they wanted to do so; I'm not aware of any mechanism in the PRC's constitution that allows for the revocation of the document itself (either directly or indirectly). So it seems similar to how things are in Iran, where people vote for various elected officials , but they are not free to vote to dismantle the system as the law explicitly prohibits it. True, the people of Iran voted overwhelmingly to approve a constitution in Iran that lays out the government system and expectations of elections, so at least the implementation of the system was democratic. But if you're not free to ultimately change the system via democratic means (even if it never or rarely happens in practice), I question how much of a democracy that is.
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