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Though Turks might not admit it, these traces of western culture are from the remnants and legacy left by the Byzantine empire. Most of the mosques were built to resemble the Hagia Sophia for example.
Did I ever say that?
Don't put words in my mouth please.
I wasn't actually referring to your post. I was responding to the same one you were, Danbo1957's, interpreted through your comment. Sorry for the confusion.
ok for all the people who say that Isanbul has no european traces... how many of you have actually been there???
oh i get so mad when i see Oh well they are muslim they are middle eastern... you relize muslim is not a country right, religion and heartige is not the same thing. so what does that mean that people should go oh wait your christen that means you have to be white european????
Ok now that i am done...
Istanbul and Tukey as a hole is VERY modern and Very European. Its 100% modernized and they have been applying to get into the EU for a while now. Its a very beautiful and modern place, there are tons of clubs and beatuiful hotels... there is more to see in Istanbul then you could ever see in a lifetime its HUGE... Istanbul is very similar to dubai.... and its quickly becoming a new playground...
i think dubai will always be the "vegas of the middle east though"
ok for all the people who say that Isanbul has no european traces... how many of you have actually been there???
oh i get so mad when i see Oh well they are muslim they are middle eastern... you relize muslim is not a country right, religion and heartige is not the same thing. so what does that mean that people should go oh wait your christen that means you have to be white european????
Ok now that i am done...
Istanbul and Tukey as a hole is VERY modern and Very European. Its 100% modernized and they have been applying to get into the EU for a while now. Its a very beautiful and modern place, there are tons of clubs and beatuiful hotels... there is more to see in Istanbul then you could ever see in a lifetime its HUGE... Istanbul is very similar to dubai.... and its quickly becoming a new playground...
i think dubai will always be the "vegas of the middle east though"
Lol .. vegas is on cloud nine ..Dubai has just raised its head up straight lol
Istanbul is an Eastern city, you will understand it already after 5 minutes there. The most western city in Turkey is Izmir; 50 % eastern, 50 % western culture.
Turks probably referred (or u r confused) to Armenians. In 1920s, what Turkish population in NY to talk about!? Syrians and Turks wouldnt live together, it was Armenians that were living with Syrians.
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Originally Posted by ABQConvict
Funny, I just read an article about the 'Oriental' population of New York City's lower east side in the 1920's. It was primarily concerned with Turks and Syrians.
It really depends on where in Istanbul you are, and the generation of people you are associating with.
There are younger, more "hip" neighborhoods where you hardly see a headscarf anywhere. Then in the more traditional areas it is not surprising to see women in Hijab walking everywhere.
This is not to say what is right or wrong, just an observation. Keep in mind though 95% of the population is muslim.
One thing I have noticed is that Prime Minister Erdogan has been progressively shifting more and more "eastern" in recent months. Especially since the Floatilla incident the anti-western sentiment in Istanbul has grown significantly, especially amongst journalists who write for certain local newspapers.
The rest of Europe is noticing this as well. I was actually in Istanbul the week of the incident on business (I live in Istanbul 1-2 weeks each month for the past 9 months due to a joint project my company in Boston is working on) and was heading back home to Boston, but agreed to meet my wife in Paris for a few days on the way back. Once my flight landed the French authorities where lined up outside our gate at CDG performing a "routine" (I have never experienced this in all my years of traveling) passport check the moment people exited the plane. Every single Turk on the flight was pulled aside for questioning, while I pulled out my US passport they didnt even ask me to open it and told me to have a good trip and welcome to France. It was probably the most blatant case of profiling I have ever seen at the airport.
Sorry for the long story, but I found that interesting and it shows that while Turkey is a secular country and Isntabul quite European in many ways, many in Europe do not see them as similar to themselves.
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