The Christian God as an abusive father (believe, punishment, Jesus Christ)
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"You are bad. You are so bad that you should be sent far away to a place where you don't get to be around your nice Daddy who loves you. You deserve to be tortured until the end of time, and to be miserable.
"But Daddy is nice. I'm so nice that I'll give you a 'free gift.' I won't let you be tortured by strangers. Remember: You don't deserve to be happy, so I'm a wonderful father to do this for you.
"Daddy had to pay to give you this gift, though. Because you broke Daddy's rules, Daddy was whipped, and beaten. You caused Daddy's pain.
"Daddy won't make you pay for the gift, though. Isn't Daddy generous? In order to give you this gift that you don't deserve in any way, Daddy needs you to do some things.
"Daddy needs you to say that he is better than you in every imaginable way. You have to admit that you are horrible and that you deserve to be tortured.
"You have to follow all of my rules. Oh, I know you'll break them. You're a bad person. But every time you break them, you need to be miserable and beg for my forgiveness. You cannot question my rules, because I'm such a better person than you. I'm only doing this because I love you so much.
"You are bad. You are so bad that you should be sent far away to a place where you don't get to be around your nice Daddy who loves you. You deserve to be tortured until the end of time, and to be miserable.
"But Daddy is nice. I'm so nice that I'll give you a 'free gift.' I won't let you be tortured by strangers. Remember: You don't deserve to be happy, so I'm a wonderful father to do this for you.
"Daddy had to pay to give you this gift, though. Because you broke Daddy's rules, Daddy was whipped, and beaten. You caused Daddy's pain.
"Daddy won't make you pay for the gift, though. Isn't Daddy generous? In order to give you this gift that you don't deserve in any way, Daddy needs you to do some things.
"Daddy needs you to say that he is better than you in every imaginable way. You have to admit that you are horrible and that you deserve to be tortured.
"You have to follow all of my rules. Oh, I know you'll break them. You're a bad person. But every time you break them, you need to be miserable and beg for my forgiveness. You cannot question my rules, because I'm such a better person than you. I'm only doing this because I love you so much.
Dorothy
Hello nana053. I am a Christian person. I believe that my heavenly Fathher loves me. But yeah, the dad described above really sounds like a bit of a psycho puppy.I'm just wondering if you are an atheist?
"You are bad. You are so bad that you should be sent far away to a place where you don't get to be around your nice Daddy who loves you. You deserve to be tortured until the end of time, and to be miserable.
"But Daddy is nice. I'm so nice that I'll give you a 'free gift.' I won't let you be tortured by strangers. Remember: You don't deserve to be happy, so I'm a wonderful father to do this for you.
"Daddy had to pay to give you this gift, though. Because you broke Daddy's rules, Daddy was whipped, and beaten. You caused Daddy's pain.
"Daddy won't make you pay for the gift, though. Isn't Daddy generous? In order to give you this gift that you don't deserve in any way, Daddy needs you to do some things.
"Daddy needs you to say that he is better than you in every imaginable way. You have to admit that you are horrible and that you deserve to be tortured.
"You have to follow all of my rules. Oh, I know you'll break them. You're a bad person. But every time you break them, you need to be miserable and beg for my forgiveness. You cannot question my rules, because I'm such a better person than you. I'm only doing this because I love you so much.
Dorothy
I know My Father in Heaven, and I thank Jesus Christ for that. Your OP does not describe My Father at all. By getting to know Jesus, you can know the Father, but until then... mocking will get no one near the truth.
I know My Father in Heaven, and I thank Jesus Christ for that. Your OP does not describe My Father at all. By getting to know Jesus, you can know the Father, but until then... mocking will get no one near the truth.
It interesting because my parents are Christians and were very involved in the church and also very abusive. They used these same arguments. They never stopped letting me know that I was lucky to be alive, how wonderful they were and how horrible I was. I think that in some people with abusive personalities they can really latch onto that underlying theme in The Bible and use it.
Do good parents torture their children for the rest of their lives for disobeying or making a mistake?
Not even talking about god right now, but do you think torture is right?
Simple questions.
I would say that God is holy. This holiness makes it impossible for sin to stand in his presence. Therefore, if a person hasn't accepted the sanctification which comes through the Blood of the Lamb, then that person will die in their sin. This means that they will be unable to come into the presence of God. SO they will be separated from him for eternity. Being separated from everything which is good is hell.
Do good parents torture their children for the rest of their lives for disobeying or making a mistake?
Not even talking about god right now, but do you think torture is right?
Simple questions.
Did you read my post? It's not about us or what we did--it's about the one we offend. It's cute to play this game of calling God a horrible parent to torture....but let's compare apples to apples.
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