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A Bible Belt in Canada is no way comparable to those in the States. The same way liberal and conservative do nit mean the same in both countries.
Southern Alberta Bible Belt is how i invision Eastern Colorado
Although, many in the Alberta Bible Belt would love to see it turn into Alabama or worse. There are some seriously religious fundamentalists who do NOT have any respect for others' beliefs or non-beliefs. I concur, liberal and conservative do not mean the same thing from a national perspective, but certainly there are parts of Alberta were the term "conservative" means the same as in the USA, and in a bad way.
Although, many in the Alberta Bible Belt would love to see it turn into Alabama or worse. There are some seriously religious fundamentalists who do NOT have any respect for others' beliefs or non-beliefs. I concur, liberal and conservative do not mean the same thing from a national perspective, but certainly there are parts of Alberta were the term "conservative" means the same as in the USA, and in a bad way.
I agree. My own MLA who I have known him and his family is so far right he could fit well in the States. But I never had my religion ir lack of religion asked about here. Although it is Alberta the closest tonoutright religious displays in stores are for Rider pride merchandise. For our American friends think Green Bay Packer fans but more fanatical.
It has been mentioned more than once that being an agnostic is a middle ground. Sometimes even being regarded as a balanced, safe position. But what caused the necessity of being balanced and how did the balance occur in the first place? It happened because the claim of the existence of a God was not acknowledged. But is that an agnostic position or an atheist one?
If I ask how something happens and an explanation is given based on observations that others can see, but then somebody adds in "but let us not forget to thank God", and I do not respond to this claim, what does that make me? An agnostic? An atheist? I don't see a difference.
But if I am then required to state my position and choosing agnosticism feels like the "balanced" one, then it is more of a social expectation that carries preferences.
It has been mentioned more than once that being an agnostic is a middle ground. Sometimes even being regarded as a balanced, safe position. But what caused the necessity of being balanced and how did the balance occur in the first place? It happened because the claim of the existence of a God was not acknowledged. But is that an agnostic position or an atheist one?
If I ask how something happens and an explanation is given based on observations that others can see, but then somebody adds in "but let us not forget to thank God", and I do not respond to this claim, what does that make me? An agnostic? An atheist? I don't see a difference.
But if I am then required to state my position and choosing agnosticism feels like the "balanced" one, then it is more of a social expectation that carries preferences.
It has been mentioned more than once that being an agnostic is a middle ground. Sometimes even being regarded as a balanced, safe position. But what caused the necessity of being balanced and how did the balance occur in the first place? It happened because the claim of the existence of a God was not acknowledged. But is that an agnostic position or an atheist one?
If I ask how something happens and an explanation is given based on observations that others can see, but then somebody adds in "but let us not forget to thank God", and I do not respond to this claim, what does that make me? An agnostic? An atheist? I don't see a difference.
But if I am then required to state my position and choosing agnosticism feels like the "balanced" one, then it is more of a social expectation that carries preferences.
It's just labels, that's all. I would be considered an agnostic atheist, which just means I lean more towards there not being a god. But I say I'm an atheist because basically I am, and it's just easier to say or type.
I wouldn't say agnosticism is "middle ground". It's simply saying you don't know whether there is a god or not. No belief, just admitting that you don't know because there is no evidence for a god. It is the best way to look at it logically, reasonably and just being ok with the fact that no one knows.
The bible is not good evidence of anything except that the human writers were possibly, especially Revelation, doing magic mushrooms and writing down their hallucinations and/or bizarre dreams.
It makes you whatever you want to be. There's no definition of atheist or agnostic that is set in stone. The label 'atheist', though, incites rage in radicals who have no clue that it just means non-believer in gods. It's hard to believe that you would have to explain that but you do.
It's just labels, that's all. I would be considered an agnostic atheist, which just means I lean more towards there not being a god. But I say I'm an atheist because basically I am, and it's just easier to say or type.
I wouldn't say agnosticism is "middle ground". It's simply saying you don't know whether there is a god or not. No belief, just admitting that you don't know because there is no evidence for a god. It is the best way to look at it logically, reasonably and just being ok with the fact that no one knows.
The bible is not good evidence of anything except that the human writers were possibly, especially Revelation, doing magic mushrooms and writing down their hallucinations and/or bizarre dreams.
It makes you whatever you want to be. There's no definition of atheist or agnostic that is set in stone. The label 'atheist', though, incites rage in radicals who have no clue that it just means non-believer in gods. It's hard to believe that you would have to explain that but you do.
Labels and social expectations, yes indeedy.
I think most of us atheists are actually agnostic atheists. I know for myself, if someone showed me true evidence of a good I'd have to reconsider my current belief. Just as I reconsidered my beliefs and became an atheist.
I enjoyed that paragraph that I bolded, in a humorous way.
I think most of us atheists are actually agnostic atheists. I know for myself, if someone showed me true evidence of a good I'd have to reconsider my current belief. Just as I reconsidered my beliefs and became an atheist.
Yes I think so too. I haven't seen or talked to any atheists on this board who claim that there is definitely not a god. I don't know any atheists personally but I've talked with pretty much all of them who post in the R&S and they would consider new evidence too, if it were presented. Not to say that it would sway or affect their non-belief in any way at all, but it would be investigated. It would have to be confirmed scientifically, of course.
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I enjoyed that paragraph that I bolded, in a humorous way.
Finally! Someone who gets that I'm being facetious not irreverant
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Yes I think so too. I haven't seen or talked to any atheists on this board who claim that there is definitely not a god. I don't know any atheists personally but I've talked with pretty much all of them who post in the R&S and they would consider new evidence too, if it were presented. Not to say that it would sway or affect their non-belief in any way at all, but it would be investigated. It would have to be confirmed scientifically, of course.
Finally! Someone who gets that I'm being facetious not irreverant
I would not -- for myself -- necessarily require scientific proof.
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I would not -- for myself -- necessarily require scientific proof.
Really? I guess that's an atheist thing. Would you be ok with just a personal experience that left you with absolutely no doubts that there is a god?
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