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But what does any of that have to do with Atheism or Agnosticism?
I'm pretty sure most Atheists and Agnostics are not considering the mechanisms of religious assembly, in fact probably couldn't care less.
my $.02
you are right. Most people, no matter what statement of believe they hold true, don't think about it past "works for me, so it must be good." then we have the leaders of a particular statement of belief. I don't care what they believe, it aint about the truth for most of the big players.
us "regular crazies" get covered in the poo they sling at each other.
Star-*/LOTR fans imagine an ideal world in their fantasy.
Fundamentalists believe in a alternate magical world.
Liberals believe that the kingdom that is gradually occurring and will someday fully happen on earth, and that those idealized fantasies are just symbols of what could really be if more people would commit to following the true religious teachings.
In a LoR fantasy world, I'd be an historical revisionists. I reckon the orcs got a bum rap from the historians of Gondor.
I can't remember the name of the books, but there is an entire series written from the point of view of the orcs, who are just the lowest-ranking, oft-reviled foot soldiers, always sent in as fodder. The protagonist is a semi-smart orc and tries to keep his unit alive and out of trouble and then end up doing something incredibly heroic that stuns everyone else. It has a lot of humor in it.
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That's a new one on me. But I'd noticed a bit of wargamer respect for the orcs. Mad buggers and no dress -sense, but you don't want them as your enemy. Bit like the Scots, really.
That's a new one on me. But I'd noticed a bit of wargamer respect for the orcs. Mad buggers and no dress -sense, but you don't want them as your enemy. Bit like the Scots, really.
In Yeskov's retelling, the wizard Gandalf is a war-monger intent on crushing the scientific and technological initiative of Mordor and its southern allies because science "destroys the harmony of the world and dries up the souls of men!" He's in cahoots with the elves, who aim to become "masters of the world," and turn Middle-earth into a "bad copy" of their magical homeland across the sea. Barad-dur, also known as the Dark Tower and Sauron's citadel, is, by contrast, described as "that amazing city of alchemists and poets, mechanics and astronomers, philosophers and physicians, the heart of the only civilization in Middle-earth to bet on rational knowledge and bravely pitch its barely adolescent technology against ancient magic."
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The protagonist of "The Last Ringbearer" is a field medic from Umbar (a southern land), who is ably assisted by an Orocuen -- that is, orc -- scout, who is not a demonic creature like the orcs in "The Lord of the Rings," but an ordinary man. They're given the task of destroying a mirror in the elf stronghold of Lorien before the elves can further use it to infect Middle-earth with their alien magic. Meanwhile, the remnants of Mordor's civilization fight a rear-guard guerrilla campaign to sustain the "green shoots of reason and progress," in opposition to the "static" and "tidy" pseudo-paradise of Middle-earth under the elven regime.
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