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Of course, none of this makes any sense if you don’t believe in God or Jesus.
I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense to a non-believer always. I would say a non-believer may ask why it has to be that way, but then decide that it may not actually be that way. So once a person doesn't accept a tenet of a religion, the person pretty much doesn't believe in their God. Some may just believe in a different type of god (even though others may say that it is the same God). Atheists just decide there is no god. Deciding to be an atheist is about as dramatic as a person saying they don't agree with a religion's interpretation of the Bible. It's not always that they don't understand - just that they don't accept what is being said.
I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense to a non-believer always. I would say a non-believer may ask why it has to be that way, but then decide that it may not actually be that way. So once a person doesn't accept a tenet of a religion, the person pretty much doesn't believe in their God. Some may just believe in a different type of god (even though others may say that it is the same God). Atheists just decide there is no god. Deciding to be an atheist is about as dramatic as a person saying they don't agree with a religion's interpretation of the Bible. It's not always that they don't understand - just that they don't accept what is being said.
True. Having grown up in a fundagelical home. I'm pretty sure I understand the beliefs reasonably well. I just think they're crazy.
True. Having grown up in a fundagelical home. I'm pretty sure I understand the beliefs reasonably well. I just think they're crazy.
Yes. The idea that a god was behind the Bible is not acceptable to me. A believer would say, "You don't understand." No. I can understand why they want to believe it, which is how the connection between God and the Bible happens. That's different than it actually being fact.
Yes. The idea that a god was behind the Bible is not acceptable to me. A believer would say, "You don't understand." No. I can understand why they want to believe it, which is how the connection between God and the Bible happens. That's different than it actually being fact.
Can you accept that inspiration and understanding are not explainable? The source of that as god/divinity?
Can you accept that inspiration and understanding are not explainable? The source of that as god/divinity?
I believe I can understand the bolded, but explaining it would be a challenge. Even if I could explain it, that doesn't mean a believer has to accept what I have to say. I wouldn't categorize them into the same position that an atheist has been categorized just because they don't accept god/divinity claims.
True. Having grown up in a fundagelical home. I'm pretty sure I understand the beliefs reasonably well. I just think they're crazy.
To be fair, I don't think the people are crazy, they just believe in stuff that is crazy because A) they've had it drilled into their heads since they were knee high to grasshoppers B) They are afraid of death or they are afraid of being dead and not living forever C) They are looking for some sort of fulfillment that they perceive will come through Jesus and God while they are alive
There is of course another category that I even as a non believer could be in. D) I now realize I am going to live and die...... and never know how we got here... and not learn any other answers concerning the mysteries of the universe. I'll just be dead like one of those doornails they always talk about.
Can you accept that inspiration and understanding are not explainable? The source of that as god/divinity?
Yes, of course "inspiration and understanding" are not necessarily understandable. But I deny the idea that god/divinity is the only possible source.
We KNOW that much of what goes on in our minds is subconscious, and that often our thoughts about why we are doing something are after-the-fact justifications. When a good idea or insight pops into my mind all of a sudden, I attribute it to my subconscious working. Seems much more likely to me than an omniscient, omnipotent, incorporeal, eternal being suddenly becoming concerned about what I should do about about a problematic relationship or a work issue or an intellectual question and sending me a special, unsigned message via mental telepathy.
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