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You should be calm and content with what you believe in
I am.
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And as I said, I don't have an issue with it.
I never cared if you did.
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You said you would walk in hell (IF one exist) in protest.
That's right, I would.
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And the question was, how would you do that if you can't hold your hand on top of a small candle flame? This is just a logical question.
This is a stupid question. If Angry Sky Toddler sends me to forever Torture Planet, then I won't have a choice to leave, or to not suffer, right? So it's not a matter of if I can do it, as there wouldn't be any possible alternative. But I mean, it's your hilarious nonsense, so you tell me.
It's a pointless exercise, since none of that ridiculous stuff exists, or makes a lick of sense in the first place.
i hope you are not dizzy with all that eye rolling.
What makes you think we want you to believe? Spirituality requires no belief. It requires knowledge.
i hope you are not dizzy with all that eye rolling.
What makes you think we want you to believe? Spirituality requires no belief. It requires knowledge.
Oddly, many "holy scriptures" vehemently disagree with you on this point.
Many preachers of my childhood would proudly proclaim that they believed precisely because it made no logical sense.
Believing is a decision. It’s a choice. If you decide to, then it will give you comfort. If you don’t, nobody cares. Faith is not based on proof.
I like to think that I will see those who went before me, after I die. Maybe I will, or maybe I won’t, but what’s the harm in believing that now? It makes death less scary.
Oddly, many "holy scriptures" vehemently disagree with you on this point.
Many preachers of my childhood would proudly proclaim that they believed precisely because it made no logical sense.
I was not impressed.
why should anyone care to impress you or that you believe or not? why do you think that you are in any way relevant in someone’s relationship to their god?
This is a stupid question. If Angry Sky Toddler sends me to forever Torture Planet, then I won't have a choice to leave, or to not suffer, right? So it's not a matter of if I can do it, as there wouldn't be any possible alternative. But I mean, it's your hilarious nonsense, so you tell me.
It's a pointless exercise, since none of that ridiculous stuff exists, or makes a lick of sense in the first place.
Go Braves.
For the bold part.
No you don't know that. No one empirically knows.
And we come back to the same point, you are using "faith" (that does not need an evidence) to form a believe that "none of that ridiculous stuff exist". You don't really know it.
For the bold part.
No you don't know that. No one empirically knows.
And we come back to the same point, you are using "faith" (that does not need an evidence) to form a believe that "none of that ridiculous stuff exist". You don't really know it.
Ok. By the exact same logic:
No one can know there isn’t a race of super-intelligent hamsters living in a cave at the center of the moon.
No one can know that we aren’t just brains in vats in some space alien’s lab.
No one can know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t exist.
No one can know that Santa Claus doesn’t exist.
No one can know we aren’t all living in The Matrix.
That’s the problem with Negative Proofs: you can “prove” the existence of absolutely anything.
No one can know there isn’t a race of super-intelligent hamsters living in a cave at the center of the moon.
No one can know that we aren’t just brains in vats in some space alien’s lab.
No one can know that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t exist.
No one can know that Santa Claus doesn’t exist.
No one can know we aren’t all living in The Matrix.
That’s the problem with Negative Proofs: you can “prove” the existence of absolutely anything.
None of this - by definition - is tied to the event of revealing itself after our deaths.
Hell and Heaven and God (if they all exist} - by definition - are tied to the event of getting themselves revealed to us after death.
What’s after death is unknown. That was the gist of my post.
And the other poster said that he will go hell (if it exists and revealed to him after his death) in protest.
And my question was, how will you so easily be willing to go to hell (if exists and is as described) when you can’t hold your hand to a small candle flame for 10 seconds?
To which - he didn’t have an answer - so he changed his position and stepped over the premise - and said to the effect that God and hell (and Heaven) does not exist.
And my point was - you really know this - no one does.
So,
“If there is a hell, I will go into it in protest”
How are you able to say this when you can’t hold your hand to a candle flame?
“ummmmmm ……. Hell does not exist”.
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