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I get a reaction to people who are always trying to put themselves in the spotlight and come off as if they are smarter than everyone else, says the unobtrusive, introverted woman who named herself "Mighty Queen".
I think AA has a phrase: whoever smelt it dealt it.
It's not entirely true tho. People react to other's that act like their abusers as well.
That serenity prayer they do is great.
Accept what I cannot change: check
Courage to change what I can: check check
Wisdom to know the difference: whaaaaattt?
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I think AA has a phrase: whoever smelt it dealt it.
It's not entirely true tho. People react to other's that act like their abusers as well.
That serenity prayer they do is great.
Accept what I cannot change: check
Courage to change what I can: check check
Wisdom to know the difference: whaaaaattt?
Ha. My daughter said she heard in AA "if you spot it, you got it". AA is full of pithy sayings.
Years ago when I went to a therapist to sort out whether I should continue my marriage after having him taken out by the cops, the therapist, who had a background in addiction and codependency and relationships, asked me if I knew the serenity prayer.
If a government mandates a belief (medical, political, economic, religious) not based on fact, that is dangerous. People should be allowed to have access to information and make up their own minds. Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.
We have a new neighbor who seems perfectly "normal". She's a retired postmaster and friendly, smart, etc, but has a strong mainstream religious belief that really is not based on any proof other than writings in a suspect book, Moderator cut: Politics
I'm at a loss to explain people like her, and they're everywhere you go, it's not just this one person. Can someone explain this to me? How can people who appear normal have beliefs that are, in my opinion, delusional?
You just described a huge portion of the population of the planet (okay, maybe not the smart part, LOL). MOST people take their religion on faith. That's why it's called "their faith".
Critical thinking skills are in very short supply in this world. Lack of a religious faith is too scary of a road to follow for the vast majority. It comforts them to believe that there's a "plan", and that we aren't all just a bunch of short-lived biological life forms that live or die based upon random occurrences, despite all evidence to the contrary. It comforts them to believe that pleading their case to a "higher power" (prayer) will result in a reversal of misfortune, or protection from harm. It's not possible for them to accept that chance alone may determine the outcome in life. It comforts them to believe that their deceased relatives aren't just "gone forever". Instead, they believe they are waiting somewhere out there (heaven) to be rejoined when they too die. It comforts them to believe that all their hard work, good deeds, and suffering will someday be rewarded, and that those who don't follow "the rules" will be punished, justice will be served, and that life never really ends. Or at least not for those that believe what they believe. This is the role of religion, to allow those who can't accept the cold, hard facts of life to go on living in the lonely universe. To accept those scary cold facts might mean that their individual lives are "meaningless" in the grand scheme, and that's just too hard for them.
If a government mandates a belief (medical, political, economic, religious) not based on fact, that is dangerous. People should be allowed to have access to information and make up their own minds. Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.
And just for the record...those who dwell on history are also condemned to repeat it.
And just for the record...those who dwell on history are also condemned to repeat it.
I was going to say 'No' but maybe in some cases, yes.
There are plenty of examples where national brooding on past wrongs (in their view) may precipitate a repeat of what they got before. And the time before that.
Childhood indoctrination. It's the lifeblood of any religion.
I would ban kids from attending religious services, let them grow up first and come to their own conclusion.
That's why we see children in Gaza screaming they hate Jews and want to kill them. Have they ever met a Jew? Have to ban madrasas, Catholic schools, Jewish schools, all religious schools.
It's pretty well known that kids pick up propaganda easily and recite it at keyword prompting. Propagandists know this and try to gain control of education, entertainment and media.
It's pretty well known that kids pick up propaganda easily and recite it at keyword prompting. Propagandists know this and try to gain control of education, entertainment and media.
In the case of any videos where children are screaming that they "hate Jews", it's simpler than that ... they have just lost loved ones from Jewish bombs (or it looks like that to them anyway), their surviving elders, if any, are ranting about it ... what else would they do or say? I'm not sure this has anything to do with Islam or Judaism, it just has to do with trauma and grief and sorrow and looking in the moment for a throat to choke. The other side is doing the same, but just have more means to actualize their rage.
Where religion comes into it is that if enough of this happens to enough people (and it is!), the fact that two historically opposing religious factions are involved just makes people easier to manipulate and radicalize. It provides a framework for rationalizing more atrocities and retributions. Because now you're not just defending your family or nation but your religion, and god himself.
In the case of any videos where children are screaming that they "hate Jews", it's simpler than that ... they have just lost loved ones from Jewish bombs (or it looks like that to them anyway), their surviving elders, if any, are ranting about it ... what else would they do or say? I'm not sure this has anything to do with Islam or Judaism, it just has to do with trauma and grief and sorrow and looking in the moment for a throat to choke. The other side is doing the same, but just have more means to actualize their rage.
Where religion comes into it is that if enough of this happens to enough people (and it is!), the fact that two historically opposing religious factions are involved just makes people easier to manipulate and radicalize. It provides a framework for rationalizing more atrocities and retributions. Because now you're not just defending your family or nation but your religion, and god himself.
It doesn't have to go that extreme for the hate to come out.
Growing up here in Appalachia, there was a lot of distrust, to put it mildly, for anyone who wasn't a Christian, and even still a good bit of suspicion of Catholics. This was back in the 1990s. Looking back, a lot of beliefs were seeded decades or even centuries ago.
While I'd like to think people are more open-minded today, my guess is they aren't, especially in private.
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