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Old 12-30-2010, 11:26 AM
 
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Trooper shooting suspect released 3 times this year over objections

Trooper shooting suspect released 3 times this year over objections *| ajc.com

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The names of the judges who signed the orders granting Favors' bond were not legible on documents reviewed by the AJC, which is attempting to identify them through other means.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:13 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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People are tired of living in fear.
I agree.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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As to the second point, you can pick on the minority community for a perceived shared affinity with criminals, and that's your right, Neil. Just as it is my right to say that white people in general are racially biased in sentencing black people with heavier penalties than they would their fellow brethren for the same crimes, which does indeed happen.
I think both cases may be anecdotal and not statistical fact, but there are examples of both, no doubt.

I have no idea about the validity of your point regarding heavier sentences for black people, but I would tend to believe that if it was a statistical fact that could be proven in court, that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the professional civil rights advocates at large woiuld be on the evening news and in front of federal courts pleading their case. That has not happened.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Here are two additional stories from the AJC related to this case:

Fulton's revolving jailhouse door *| ajc.com

Trooper shooting | Mayor, DA and APD request probe of Fulton system *| ajc.com
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Acworth
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Kinda creepy.. i saw said person on saturday. 744 (car plates are badge numbers)

Thing is there is no way to link recidivism with murder. Think about it.. domestic abusers, drug sellers/users are all generally recidivists. Some rack up massive histories and nothing more comes out of it.

Then some times you have people with no history just blast somebody in the face over an improper lane pull over. Google it. Actual case.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:37 AM
 
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Kinda creepy.. i saw said person on saturday. 744 (car plates are badge numbers)

Thing is there is no way to link recidivism with murder. Think about it.. domestic abusers, drug sellers/users are all generally recidivists. Some rack up massive histories and nothing more comes out of it.

Then some times you have people with no history just blast somebody in the face over an improper lane pull over. Google it. Actual case.
Is there NO link between recidivism and additional crimes - not just, but including, murder? Are people with NO history of criminality just as likely to commit crimes as those with frequent arrest records? I think not.

Criminals street thugs are not upstanding citizens just because they dont commit murder or other violent crimes. Those that cant keep their paws off other people's stuff need to spend large blocks of time in places where they cant do harm to law abiding citizens. PERIOD.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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How do you know that the "professional civil rights advocates" as you call it, don't do that? And what makes you even think that the evening news would even report on on those protests consistently?

The corporate news media doesn't report everything you know, especially if it doesn't fall in line with a specific agenda.

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I think both cases may be anecdotal and not statistical fact, but there are examples of both, no doubt.

I have no idea about the validity of your point regarding heavier sentences for black people, but I would tend to believe that if it was a statistical fact that could be proven in court, that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the professional civil rights advocates at large woiuld be on the evening news and in front of federal courts pleading their case. That has not happened.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:50 AM
 
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I have no idea about the validity of your point regarding heavier sentences for black people, but I would tend to believe that if it was a statistical fact that could be proven in court, that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the professional civil rights advocates at large woiuld be on the evening news and in front of federal courts pleading their case. That has not happened.

If Gregory Favors is an indication, these guys effectively aren't getting any sentences at all. He was repeatedly released with no bond, despite his history as a repeat offender, probation violator and a record of not showing up.


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Howard said his prosecutors asked that Favors, who he said had 10 convictions in Cobb and Fulton counties, be sentenced as a recidivist on the new charges of possession of cocaine, tampering with evidence and fleeing police, which were just the sort of cases that most often result in sentences of probation.


If Favors was sentenced as a habitual offender, it would have meant he would have to serve the full four years in prison. Howard said it was an attempt to take a career criminal who knew how to game the system off the street. Instead he was sentenced to 60 days to serve of a 30-year sentence and six months probation.


“The problem is that the sentence he received is typical of the sentences that are handed out in the [rocket docket] system which now handles 70 percent of the cases in Fulton County and is presided over by an non-elected magistrate instead of an elected Superior Court judge," Howard said. "The magistrates ... put them on probation."
Fulton's revolving jailhouse door *| ajc.com

Trooper shooting suspect released 3 times this year over objections *| ajc.com

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Old 12-31-2010, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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If Gregory Favors is an indication, these guys effectively aren't getting any sentences at all. He was repeatedly released with no bond, despite his history as a repeat offender, probation violator and a record of not showing up.
Excellent point.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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That's why. Small town and suburbs. Its a mostly, urban phenomena.

Who was giving the behavior a pass? He claims it just Atlanta and its not.

Any urban area in an America and the world has an adversion to the police and apathy towards the criminals.

Its the same here in Atlanta, NYC, LA, Kingston, JA and others...
All done by the same groups of people. A people that dominates Atlanta.
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