Who thinks the MARTA should be expanded to include Cobb,Gwinnett, and the other metro Atlanta counties? (Dallas: price, stats)

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by ttefylooc

I say expand!!! break ground on something. The North line needs the most attention, then the East line.

The Gwinnett & Cobb people are hurting what could happen in the North. They don't want people coming in...but what about the people coming out? Not everyone that lives in Gwinett & Cobb work there.

I don't get how a vote taken in Cobb County about MARTA over 20 years ago continually gets brought up in this forum as some sort of reflection on the current situation.

The people in Cobb County are impeding NOTHING at the moment, and as far as I can tell haven't had any input at all for decades!

If MARTA wants to expand here, interested parties should present a valid plan and let those of us who live in Cobb County actually vote on it here and now instead of pointing fingers at us over a vote that took place before many of the posters here were even born ... and before many of the rest of us even lived here!

A viable plan could well be rejected (MARTA does not have a good reputation, and CCT is both locally controlled and fairly well-managed from what I can tell), but a rejected current plan is a lot better than dredging up decades-old decisions and then whining about it.

Besides, last time I looked most of Cobb was west of Atlanta, or perhaps northwest, not north.

[PeteyNice]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

I don't get how a vote taken in Cobb County about MARTA over 20 years ago continually gets brought up in this forum as some sort of reflection on the current situation.

The people in Cobb County are impeding NOTHING at the moment, and as far as I can tell haven't had any input at all for decades!

That isn't entirely true. One of MARTA's biggest problems is that non-stakeholder counties (Cobb, Gwinett, etc) have representatives on MARTA's board. They have have undue influence since they get to guide MARTA without paying for it.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by PeteyNice

That isn't entirely true. One of MARTA's biggest problems is that non-stakeholder counties (Cobb, Gwinett, etc) have representatives on MARTA's board. They have have undue influence since they get to guide MARTA without paying for it.

Oh. Okay. Good!

Hopefully such people provide useful input, but I also expect them to protect their own local interests.

[solibs]

This is what the Atlanta suburbs need!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...mmuterrail.gif

And for the city -
BeltLine > Home


I didn't read this entire thread but a few things jumped out at me - crime. That's hilarious. Property values rise, on average, 17% with the introduction of commuter service.

In NJ when the state was building the RiverLINE light rail between Camden and Trenton all of the suburban folk were freaking out because black people would have access to their towns (of course no one ever comes out and says it so they use code words like "crime"). Never mind the fact that the bus has already been running the same route for the last 30 years. It's just funny, to think of someone breaking into your house, stealing your TV, then running to the train station and waiting 15 minutes for the next train, then sitting on the train for 15 minutes or so until you reach your supposed destination then walking home with your loot. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Anyway, here we are 5 years later and the crime wave has yet to materialize.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by solibs

This is what the Atlanta suburbs need!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...mmuterrail.gif

And for the city -
BeltLine > Home


I didn't read this entire thread but a few things jumped out at me - crime. That's hilarious. Property values rise, on average, 17% with the introduction of commuter service.

In NJ when the state was building the RiverLINE light rail between Camden and Trenton all of the suburban folk were freaking out because black people would have access to their towns (of course no one ever comes out and says it so they use code words like "crime"). Never mind the fact that the bus has already been running the same route for the last 30 years. It's just funny, to think of someone breaking into your house, stealing your TV, then running to the train station and waiting 15 minutes for the next train, then sitting on the train for 15 minutes or so until you reach your supposed destination then walking home with your loot. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Anyway, here we are 5 years later and the crime wave has yet to materialize.

So true! I see the same thing down here in metro Atlanta. A woman that I know through classes lives in Powder Springs, in the southwest end of Cobb County. She said she would not want transit going through Powder Springs because it was bring the crime rate up. A criminal is going to get caught faster on a train or bus than in a car. Why? Transit takes longer and the police can catch up. A criminal can just steal a car and drive somewhere, committ the crime, and then speed off.

[ttefylooc]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

I don't get how a vote taken in Cobb County about MARTA over 20 years ago continually gets brought up in this forum as some sort of reflection on the current situation.

The people in Cobb County are impeding NOTHING at the moment, and as far as I can tell haven't had any input at all for decades!

If MARTA wants to expand here, interested parties should present a valid plan and let those of us who live in Cobb County actually vote on it here and now instead of pointing fingers at us over a vote that took place before many of the posters here were even born ... and before many of the rest of us even lived here!

A viable plan could well be rejected (MARTA does not have a good reputation, and CCT is both locally controlled and fairly well-managed from what I can tell), but a rejected current plan is a lot better than dredging up decades-old decisions and then whining about it.

Besides, last time I looked most of Cobb was west of Atlanta, or perhaps northwest, not north.

Northwest/North whatever...Too many jobs up there not to have stations. No one is blaming Cobb....But it has been stated that the county had the opportunity to get involved, instead decided to be independent, but then decide to have many office buildings in the location. No car no work, that is ridiculous, there needs to be other options.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by ttefylooc

Northwest/North whatever...Too many jobs up there not to have stations. No one is blaming Cobb....But it has been stated that the county had the opportunity to get involved, instead decided to be independent, but then decide to have many office buildings in the location. No car no work, that is ridiculous, there needs to be other options.

Of course. Unfortunately, many people who do have cars don't care. I suspect opening businesses in far-flung locations and keeping MARTA out achieve the same bad goal. I think some businesses are opening in far-flung places to make sure the so-called "rif raf" can't get access to those businesses which could provide good jobs, especially to those without cars. Keeping MARTA out would make it very hard for a person with no car to get to a job.

[Norlan]

The problem is, the company itself lacks of funding, and as a taxpayer myself, I don't want to be taxed more than what I already am.

[turtlemom]

MARTA could be better and more economical - if it were managed adequately.

Pulling homeless people in to be board members is a sure-fire way to go down the tubes.

Cheerio!
Turtlemom

[wxjay]

Originally Posted by turtlemom

MARTA could be better and more economical - if it were managed adequately.

Pulling homeless people in to be board members is a sure-fire way to go down the tubes.

Cheerio!
Turtlemom

Grow up. We have significant problems with transportation and quality of life in metro Atlanta, and comments like this are stupid, unnecessary, and frankly ignorant.