Teachers moving to ATL (Atlanta, Duluth: how much, homes, movies)

[dlh891]

I don't understand why the poster would be getting beat up over wanting to teach in a middle class area. What am I missing?

[BobKovacs]

Originally Posted by dlh891

I don't understand why the poster would be getting beat up over wanting to teach in a middle class area. What am I missing?

You're missing the fact that some posters around here just love to throw the race card up every chance they get. If the OP had asked about where they could find an all-black school to teach in, no one would say anything about it- ask for an all-white school though, and all hell would break loose.

[jessiesma]

that teachers are hired by an entire district not an individual school. The other thing is that one reason the "bad" school have gotten that way is that there are very few teachers with the guts and commitment to go into them and bring their superior skills to bear. My husband just came home from substitute teaching in the "ghetto" in St. Pete in "varying exceptionalities" and had no problem. I guess it's because he doesn't have an attitude that he's above it all and "deserves" a middle class school whatever that is. BTW he is a white, middle aged guy. He is very firm with the kids and they eat it up. They know he cares about them and respects their humanity by relating to them in positive way. Yes, he sometimes has incorrigibles who need to be written up and he does it but he makes every effort to get thru to them first.
I hope the OP's find their nice, sanitized school because they are doing the "ghetto" kids no favors, inflicting their attitudes on them.

Any school that wants a committed, enthusiastic highly qualified language arts teacher seeking alternate certification can PM us.

Originally Posted by dlh891

I don't understand why the poster would be getting beat up over wanting to teach in a middle class area. What am I missing?

[dlh891]

Originally Posted by jessiesma

that teachers are hired by an entire district not an individual school. The other thing is that one reason the "bad" school have gotten that way is that there are very few teachers with the guts and commitment to go into them and bring their superior skills to bear. My husband just came home from substitute teaching in the "ghetto" in St. Pete in "varying exceptionalities" and had no problem. I guess it's because he doesn't have an attitude that he's above it all and "deserves" a middle class school whatever that is. BTW he is a white, middle aged guy. He is very firm with the kids and they eat it up. They know he cares about them and respects their humanity by relating to them in positive way. Yes, he sometimes has incorrigibles who need to be written up and he does it but he makes every effort to get thru to them first.
I hope the OP's find their nice, sanitized school because they are doing the "ghetto" kids no favors, inflicting their attitudes on them.

Any school that wants a committed, enthusiastic highly qualified language arts teacher seeking alternate certification can PM us.

I guess when the OP said they wanted to teach in a middle class, diverse school that was just code for rich, well behaved and white? WTH?

I think some people must have a long weekend from work and are bored....

This is certainly not a nice welcome for educators looking to move to this area. In fact, being from Florida myself, these are the attitudes we were trying to escape. For all anyone knows, the poster could be black.

[jessiesma]

doesn't matter if you don't want to serve when you're in a service profession. So only middle class kids deserve nice schools and competent teachers? THAT was my point, not the OP's race. for all you know, I could be Black, Asian or OH NO Hispanic. You totally turned my point upside down. It speaks more to your attitude than mine.
What would happen if doctors only wanted to work in nice, middle class suburban hospitals? You work for the public, you supposedly serve the public, you go where the public NEEDS you to go. You don't like that, you go to a private sector establishment. That's all. BTW some of the worst behaved kids my husband has had were in the white, middle-upper class schools. Not all but a lot.

Originally Posted by dlh891

I guess when the OP said they wanted to teach in a middle class, diverse school that was just code for rich, well behaved and white? WTH?

I think some people must have a long weekend from work and are bored....

This is certainly not a nice welcome for educators looking to move to this area. In fact, being from Florida myself, these are the attitudes we were trying to escape. For all anyone knows, the poster could be black.

[KevK]

Originally Posted by BobKovacs

You're missing the fact that some posters around here just love to throw the race card up every chance they get. If the OP had asked about where they could find an all-black school to teach in, no one would say anything about it- ask for an all-white school though, and all hell would break loose.

Asking for an all white school would be racist. Asking for an all black schools would just mean that the teacher wishes to help poor students since most such schools are usually poor.

[BobKovacs]

Originally Posted by jessiesma

doesn't matter if you don't want to serve when you're in a service profession. So only middle class kids deserve nice schools and competent teachers? THAT was my point, not the OP's race. for all you know, I could be Black, Asian or OH NO Hispanic. You totally turned my point upside down. It speaks more to your attitude than mine.
What would happen if doctors only wanted to work in nice, middle class suburban hospitals? You work for the public, you supposedly serve the public, you go where the public NEEDS you to go. You don't like that, you go to a private sector establishment. That's all. BTW some of the worst behaved kids my husband has had were in the white, middle-upper class schools. Not all but a lot.

So when, exactly, did the requirement go into place that states that all teachers need to be like Edward James Olmos in "Lean On Me", and that all doctors need to work at Grady? Last I checked, if I wanted to be a teacher in Beverly Hills as opposed to in Compton that was my choice, just as an architect can choose to work only on large custom homes rather than designing low-income housing.

[BobKovacs]

Originally Posted by KevK

Asking for an all white school would be racist. Asking for an all black schools would just mean that the teacher wishes to help poor students since most such schools are usually poor.

Man, Kev- how wide is that brush you're painting with? It must be one of those big 18" rollers. Black schools are "usually poor"? That's quite a statement.......

[dlh891]

Originally Posted by KevK

Asking for an all white school would be racist. Asking for an all black schools would just mean that the teacher wishes to help poor students since most such schools are usually poor.

Well, that seems racist to me.

My daughter is mixed so if someone sees her on the way to school they would assume she is 'poor'? I would love for you to see some of the 'poor' people in my neighborhood.

[dlh891]

Originally Posted by jessiesma

doesn't matter if you don't want to serve when you're in a service profession. So only middle class kids deserve nice schools and competent teachers? THAT was my point, not the OP's race. for all you know, I could be Black, Asian or OH NO Hispanic. You totally turned my point upside down. It speaks more to your attitude than mine.
What would happen if doctors only wanted to work in nice, middle class suburban hospitals? You work for the public, you supposedly serve the public, you go where the public NEEDS you to go. You don't like that, you go to a private sector establishment. That's all. BTW some of the worst behaved kids my husband has had were in the white, middle-upper class schools. Not all but a lot.

You, I believe, were the one to mention 'ghetto'.

And my attitude is fine. I am white, married to a black man and we have produced one of the most beautiful, sweet little girls you have ever seen. I just have no idea how this thread became so hostile. Again, the OP said she wanted to teach in a middle class, diverse school? And she gets beat up for it? Please, that is just taking it too far.

And, for the record, I am highly offended by you using the word 'ghetto' on behalf of my husband and daughter.