Thugs in Atlanta? Bad parenting, bad politics, what?

[MarqueseGilmore]

Originally Posted by coolyfett

Garbage produces garbage. The question was asked where do "thugs" come from and why or something along that line. You can be in denial all you want. Low class dysfunctional people, come from low class dysfunctional people. Who you know down the street is hogwash.

Are your parents good people? Your siblings.....do you all have the same mom and dad? If no, how many baby daddies does your mom have under her belt? Will your defensive response be "none of your business?"

It seems to me...... That your angry over something that has nothing to do with single mothers. What race are you,if I may ask? Do you have something against african-americans or single mothers period? WHat makes you the specialist on this subject?

[MarqueseGilmore]

Oh and for the record my mom had three children by one man. Oh another thing you assume these fathers are deadbeat? How do you know the circumstances? In my case my father was ill!!THank GOD he's doing excellent now......but you just dont know so you are not in a position to stereotype!

[DeaconJ]

Originally Posted by MarqueseGilmore

It seems to me...... That your angry over something that has nothing to do with single mothers. What race are you,if I may ask? Do you have something against african-americans or single mothers period? WHat makes you the specialist on this subject?

I tentatively agree with you, but I strongly disagree on bringing race into a discussion on single or bad parenting. I know there are a high percentage of black single mothers, but the number of mothers/other races are probably just as high.

[MarqueseGilmore]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

I tentatively agree with you, but I strongly disagree on bringing race into a discussion on single or bad parenting. I know there are a high percentage of black single mothers, but the number of mothers/other races are probably just as high.

Oh I totally agree sir. I brought race up because I just wasn't sure what the posters problem was!!

[GoGo9pool]

Maybe that is a conspiracy to keep white people out of Atlanta!!!Do you have a problem with thugs in/around the city or just the crime rates in general? If you don't feel safe in your general area then that is a personal problem, if you are just ranting on criminals in general then that is another thing.

I have not had a problem with crime in Atlanta since i have been here. Looking to move In town within ten years. For personal safety:

Walk in groups, Don't walk alone after dark, don't wander around aimlessly have some idea were you are going, keep something immediate with you, pepper spray, 50$ stun gun, a staff,take taxies to marta stations or just learn how to drive around the city well, learn how to fight at least a little bit. To secure your home consider:

sturdier doors, security systems, reinforced windows, try a guard dog, keep something immediate near your bed like a baseball bat, keep a phone nearby and reconsider housing options.

You have to take precautions for your own safety, don't expect the city to do it for you, don't expect things to change that much. Just don't make yourself and easy target for thugs.

But to address the problem why thugs exist in atlanta, I have no idea, I don't study criminology! They exist everywhere though it dosn't matter what type of music people listen to. Atlanta had problems with crime long before it became a hip hop mecca in the 2000s, and African Americans, we have had problems with crime long before hip hop became mainstream in the 80s and 90s. Art mimicks real life, and art rarley cause social changes, cultural changes unless your are da vinci.

Inner City crime has always been harder to control than that of crime in rural areas, the criminals are better orginizeds, the have accessibility, the police officers come from the some neighborhoods as the criminals, low pay, ill equiped to control a large city as apposed to a 1,000 person city. You can't compare crime operations to those that happen in say valdosta to atlanta. People with criminal backgrounds are driven to cities, poor people are more driven to cities also, for the same reason college grads come.

For example I have occasionally had the chance to talk to some of the working class in atlanta and lots of the same they took a bus or a norfolk southern train to the city after they lost jobs and needed transportation. Thats how some people judge cities how well the support the working class, and the infastructure is there to support those people. Historically proverty and Crime has always been the trademark of cities. Atlanta is a big city with crime problems, but other cities that are considered big with crime problems are much much smaller than atlanta, and i think crime grows expanetional with population. It is getting much better though, right now atlanta has a shackey job market, plus real-estate market. Comparing to atlanta to cities such as San franscisco, New York, Sacremento, san diego, san antonio, austin isn't to fair!!!