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Old 03-23-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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Would have thought NOLA would be higher and I'm very surprised to not see Detroit on the list at all.
Detroit usually stays in its region. A lot move to Ohio or other surrounding states.

One has to look at the ridiculously low cost of living in Detroit to understand it. You just cannot get that low of a cost of living in the South.

With Texas, one is already in the South so the cost of living is quite similar.

Detroit also offers a unique take on Black culture that plays out differently in Atlanta. Same with Chicago. Both cities were Black Meccas/Chocolate Cities back in the day (sixties through nineties). There are people that tend to stay back for cultural reasons, even though they SHOULD move. Also keep in mind the educational requirements in Atlanta, whereas cities like Detroit and New Orleans were always more working class and are a lot different from Atlanta. In those instances, you're just trading one predominately Black city for another.

Atlanta is the Mecca in the South. DC for the MidAtlantic, and so on and so forth. It is strictly cultural. The way things play out in Detroit, if you are doing okay, you probably do not want to live anywhere else. Even though the rest of us hear all of these horrible things about the city. I only say this having known my fair share of Detroiters. There is a lot of pride to be from there you don't see from a lot of cities, even places like NY and LA. Moving somewhere else is like an admission of defeat.

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Old 03-24-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Would have thought NOLA would be higher and I'm very surprised to not see Detroit on the list at all.
The ONLY reason NOLA is on that list is because of Katrina. Don't get me wrong there were NOLA folks in Atlanta prior to Katrina but NOT enough to put them on this least.
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Old 03-24-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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I'm surprised New York City is #13, I would have thought we would be in the top 5.

Me too.. I'm Shocked . When I was in college in the ATL it seemed everyone you ran into was from NYC or the Tri-State area.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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Me too! We just moved here last summer, and I swear, half the people in my subdivision are from the Tri-State area, lol! Or Michigan!!

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Me too.. I'm Shocked . When I was in college in the ATL it seemed everyone you ran into was from NYC or the Tri-State area.
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Old 03-24-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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There is no inferiority complex over here in Atlanta, especially as related to any other southern city. There is nothing about which the city should feel inferior! Quite the contrary, I think that there sometimes is too much boastfulness coming out of our city. So let's get that out of the way first thing & clear out that misconception.
And yes, it is true that here on CD we in Atlanta are repeatedly told on city vs city threads that our economy sucks by comparison to those of Dallas & Houston. I've read & digested & jettisoned the comments so many times that it comes second nature to me by now.
Given the cyclical nature & impermanance of economic performance, what is happening at one time is like a snapshot & a mere moment in the long range run of things.
When I wrote my post that you more recently took 2 excerpts from yesterday morning, I was largely responding to one of yours much earlier in this thread. There was certainly nothing nasty in your post or negative about Atlanta but I answered it because I am a hobby follower of demographic info, & I wanted you to understand that I am quite aware of the 2 way flow of population between cities & states & the dynamics of the ebb & flow nature of it.
So the only 2 things that we are really in disagreement about as I see it is whether or not there is a rather commonly-expressed view out of Texas on CD threads that we in Atlanta are now second rate or a poor performer because of the current economic climate. And then there is the question as regards the validity of your assertion that Atlantans here have an inferiority complex.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:15 AM
 
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Interesting, but I don't know how accurate it is. I'd imagine a lot of people are like me: nomads that wander all over the US for work. My cell phone number is from 3 states ago.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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I think the Detriot people are moving to Chicago and Minneapolis
Doubtful. Metro Atlanta has a ton of Michigan transplants and Chicago isn't growing much at all these days.
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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Detroit usually stays in its region. A lot move to Ohio or other surrounding states.

One has to look at the ridiculously low cost of living in Detroit to understand it. You just cannot get that low of a cost of living in the South.

With Texas, one is already in the South so the cost of living is quite similar.

Detroit also offers a unique take on Black culture that plays out differently in Atlanta. Same with Chicago. Both cities were Black Meccas/Chocolate Cities back in the day (sixties through nineties). There are people that tend to stay back for cultural reasons, even though they SHOULD move. Also keep in mind the educational requirements in Atlanta, whereas cities like Detroit and New Orleans were always more working class and are a lot different from Atlanta. In those instances, you're just trading one predominately Black city for another.

Atlanta is the Mecca in the South. DC for the MidAtlantic, and so on and so forth. It is strictly cultural. The way things play out in Detroit, if you are doing okay, you probably do not want to live anywhere else. Even though the rest of us hear all of these horrible things about the city. I only say this having known my fair share of Detroiters. There is a lot of pride to be from there you don't see from a lot of cities, even places like NY and LA. Moving somewhere else is like an admission of defeat.
And yet there are a TON of Michigan/Detroit transplants living here. Michigan is one of the top 10 states that migrants to metro Atlanta come from, so I don't see how what you're saying jibes with the facts. It may be that there are more transplants here from different parts of Michigan as opposed to Detroit alone.

I found this piece from last year from a Detroit-based publication interesting: Black Detroiters Moving to Atlanta for New Opportunities
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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The ONLY reason NOLA is on that list is because of Katrina. Don't get me wrong there were NOLA folks in Atlanta prior to Katrina but NOT enough to put them on this least.
NOLA is on the list, just not towards the top as I thought it would be. I suppose it's just a function of the numbers since NOLA isn't all that big to begin with and a lot of NOLA natives have also migrated to Texas.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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There is nothing about which the city should feel inferior! Quite the contrary
I stopped reading your reply because you immediately are replying from an inaccurate place and need to clarify. The above comment isexactly my point. You can't even grasp what I said. I did not say that Atlantans should feel inferior. I said the opposite.
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