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Old 05-17-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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Let me ask you a question. When I said PRESERVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE, why is it that you're still reading CHOP DOWN AS MANY TREES AS YOU CAN? I say that I don't need to live in a forest and you hear "I hate those brown and green pieces of crap and want them out of my sight". You have a problem understanding balance.

I never said I disliked Atlanta or its trees. My suggestion would be for you to get out of your feelings and look at the objective statements I'm making. Perhaps that's asking too much.
You mean "objective" statements like this one?

And let's not kid ourselves. If you guys truly cared so much about the environment and trees, you would be living in a rural area. Not the smog infested, auto centric city of Atlanta, which is hardly a champion of smart and responsible growth. Give me a break.



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Old 05-17-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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You mean "objective" statements like this one?

And let's not kid ourselves. If you guys truly cared so much about the environment and trees, you would be living in a rural area. Not the smog infested, auto centric city of Atlanta, which is hardly a champion of smart and responsible growth. Give me a break.



I meant what I said. If you have a problem with that statement you should clearly express what it is, rather than resorting to letting emoticons make some kind of point for you, like a teenager. At this point I can't tell if you are truly interested in a civil discussion or if you are just looking to argue.
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Old 05-17-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Jonesboro
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the resident
Have you ever looked into how much earlier D.C. was a city while Atlanta was still a small town & then a small city?
D.C.'s inner city is dense because it was built in the old style common in old cities on the east coast & along some of the Great Lakes. Hence the dense pattern of townhouse & row house development prevalent in much of the city proper and her older suburbs.
At the end of WW2, D.C. had over 800,000 in it's city population & was in the top 10 in population while at that time Atlanta proper had about 325,000 residents. Metro Atlanta only reached 1 million in population at the 1960 census.
Looking across the county, most metros/cities that exploded in population after WW2 had similar development patterns as did Atlanta unless they were cities with high land cost pressures that were above average. Metro D.C.'s land & housing costs have been above average for a long time.
Once again here on this thread, we have dissimilar metros being compared as to density & development patterns. Trying to do so is yet again an apples to oranges situation.

Saintmarks
In reality the market will decide the patterns of development & what is sustainable going forward from now much more so than the "liberal" mind set. I won't say anything more about the political angle here lest I sound irritated.
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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You have to wonder why some people hate trees.
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Old 05-17-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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Honestly, this looks kinda of in a "grid-like" setting. If this was a complete grid style neighborhood and it kept the main streets more for street front business, IMO, it wouldn't be too bad. Maybe not dense in the sense of stacked apartments and condos or row houses but definitely walkable.
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Old 05-17-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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You have to wonder why some people hate trees.
Who are these people and where are they?
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:24 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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the resident

Once again here on this thread, we have dissimilar metros being compared as to density & development patterns. Trying to do so is yet again an apples to oranges situation.
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I agree with your post. This is something I reiterate constantly on this forum.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:02 PM
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Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Never engage the pedantic. It's too tiresome.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:45 AM
 
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Who are these people and where are they?
Sorry, I was just kidding. I know you don't hate trees.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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the resident
Have you ever looked into how much earlier D.C. was a city while Atlanta was still a small town & then a small city?
D.C.'s inner city is dense because it was built in the old style common in old cities on the east coast & along some of the Great Lakes. Hence the dense pattern of townhouse & row house development prevalent in much of the city proper and her older suburbs.
At the end of WW2, D.C. had over 800,000 in it's city population & was in the top 10 in population while at that time Atlanta proper had about 325,000 residents. Metro Atlanta only reached 1 million in population at the 1960 census.
Looking across the county, most metros/cities that exploded in population after WW2 had similar development patterns as did Atlanta unless they were cities with high land cost pressures that were above average. Metro D.C.'s land & housing costs have been above average for a long time.
Once again here on this thread, we have dissimilar metros being compared as to density & development patterns. Trying to do so is yet again an apples to oranges situation.

Saintmarks
In reality the market will decide the patterns of development & what is sustainable going forward from now much more so than the "liberal" mind set. I won't say anything more about the political angle here lest I sound irritated.
When I visited DC seems a lot more crowded then Atlanta does so what theresident posted was interesting to see that it actually IS a lot more crowded and about 5 million more people than Atlanta!!!!!! I didn't realize that many people live there when you combine DC and Baltimore together AND together they have the same amount land of Atlanta!!!!!! Very crowded!!!!!

That is why the expensive housing market there. My family moved down here in Atlanta from Deanwood in DC because its so cheap here and they like the Southern culture in Atlanta. DC is way too much especially in the last 10 years.
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