Little Five Points improvement district wins approval (Montgomery, Reynolds: house, neighborhood)

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by arjay57

How far will the bike lanes go? Do they stop at Euclid or will they run on up to the Freedom parkway trail?

Looks like they will only do "sharrows" north of Euclid which is too bad. That section of road is unsafe with four vehicle lanes. Three plus continuing the protected bike lanes on up to Freedom Parkway Trail and Ponce would be much better.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

How far will the bike lanes go? Do they stop at Euclid or will they run on up to the Freedom parkway trail?

NB stops at Euclid Ave (north intersection) SB lanes start at Euclid/McClendon intersection. The roadway between Corner Tavern and Starbucks is too narrow for bike lanes, better to make sidewalks safer and route bikes onto parallel roads.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by cqholt

NB stops at Euclid Ave (north intersection) SB lanes start at Euclid/McClendon intersection. The roadway between Corner Tavern and Starbucks is too narrow for bike lanes, better to make sidewalks safer and route bikes onto parallel roads.

There are not any parallel streets that would not add a mile+ onto the route.

The more direct routes should be prioritized more for bikes / peds because additional distance is more impactful to them than cars.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by cqholt

L5P CID streetscape improvement plan for Moreland Ave to begin work in 2019.
GDOT Bike/Ped Concept Report is now available – Little 5 Points Community Improvement District
http://l5pcid.com/wp-content/uploads...04-27-2016.pdf

Thank the gods that they're putting in a turn lane in front of Cameli's and Front Page News. That turn was always a pain in the arse since you couldn't tell where the lanes were even painted, and the furthest left lanes were treated as travel lanes despite having cars needing to turn.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by jsvh

There are not any parallel streets that would not add a mile+ onto the route.

The more direct routes should be prioritized more for bikes / peds because additional distance is more impactful to them than cars.

Bike lanes up to the Freedom parkway trail would make for a really nice connection.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by jsvh

There are not any parallel streets that would not add a mile+ onto the route.

The more direct routes should be prioritized more for bikes / peds because additional distance is more impactful to them than cars.

Euclid Ave to Candler St
Coulquitt to North Highland or Seminole Ave.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7670...7787,17z?hl=en

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Euclid Ave to Candler St
Coulquitt to North Highland or Seminole Ave.
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7670...7787,17z?hl=en

I'd say those are pretty good alternatives.

However, when we were talking about Peachtree a lot of folks seemed to completely dismiss the idea of using parallel side streets.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I'd say those are pretty good alternatives.

However, when we were talking about Peachtree a lot of folks seemed to completely dismiss the idea of using parallel side streets.

There's a certain difference of scale here. Peachtree was going from 3 lanes in each direction to 2 lanes and a turn lane, with bike lanes. Where Moreland is currently 3 lanes, it is being reduced to 2 with a turn lane and bike lanes. Where Moreland is currently 2 lanes, there is no room to squeeze in bike lanes or a turn lane (which would be joyously met, all around, could they be)

There's also the fact that the diversion is to a multi-use path going in a completely different direction. Depending on your destination, you may actually save time by cutting the corners. Peachtree was to be the corridor, without another major corridor to dump into along that stretch.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

There's a certain difference of scale here. Peachtree was going from 3 lanes in each direction to 2 lanes and a turn lane, with bike lanes. Where Moreland is currently 3 lanes, it is being reduced to 2 with a turn lane and bike lanes. Where Moreland is currently 2 lanes, there is no room to squeeze in bike lanes or a turn lane (which would be joyously met, all around, could they be)

I thought Moreland was 6 lanes up to Euclid, and then narrowed to 4.

http://tinyurl.com/zuvadfe

There's an excellent low traffic corridor one block west of Peachtree. (Rivers/Vernon/Andrews/Slaton). And of course you can get on the Beltline at Bobby Jones. But the bike folks didn't seem to like that.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

Where Moreland is currently 2 lanes, there is no room to squeeze in bike lanes or a turn lane (which would be joyously met, all around, could they be)

Well, they could fit them in if they downsized the road to three lanes (total. One lane in each direction and a turn lane) like it is north of Ponce. Of course it will take time for that to happen politically.