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Old 10-13-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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You dont need squares and historic buildings to be like Center city. I think the poster was more talking about the vibe.
The layout and historic urban fabric of Center City constitute a HUGE part of its vibe, and again, that's something that Atlanta just can't replicate. It would be like saying you don't need squares and historic buildings to be like Savannah's historic district and of course that would be quite misguided. There are other cities out there that are appropriate models for future downtown development in Atlanta; Seattle sounds like one of them.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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The ball is already rolling and it will get "there" eventually. What people must remember is that Downtown Atlanta is not starting from scratch, rather putting back what used to be there. Our problem with our Downtown isn't one of it being a "nowhere" kind of place without history or character. The pre-1960s Downtown Atlanta would be on par with the so-called "best" downtowns today save New York. We just need to get back to investing in it.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Huh? We built a multi-billion dollar HRT subway system (partially with federal funds that Seattle rejected).
Oh, big deal. We can jump on a bus here about every 10 minutes. HRT is not the end-all and be-all.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:19 PM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Oh, big deal. We can jump on a bus here about every 10 minutes. HRT is not the end-all and be-all.
I agree, and MARTA could certainly benefit from beefing up its bus network. However your assertion that Atlanta didn't "retain its mass transportation options downtown" is incorrect given that we have seven subway stations in the CBD that didn't exist prior to 1981.

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Old 10-13-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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I'd like to see more Atlantans get over their disinclination to ride the bus. Every time I've been in Seattle it seems like a lot more people ride the bus.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Agree, Atlanta has the better bones with such a good heavy rail foundation but Seattle offers a lot more today with comprehensive bus service to more areas, plus Ferries, water taxis etc. And while it is not heavy rail they are taxing themselves alot (not waiting for federal dollars) to build out a light rail system all over town.
On the other hand, Seattle has the waterfront which serves to concentrate development along the waterfront and the views alone makes it much more desirable in terms of attracting residents downtown.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Yes, people of all economic levels ride the bus in Seattle. But even for many who would like to in Atlanta, the bus coverage isn't good enough for it to make sense. If your like many who work in a suburban office park setting more than likely you can't take the bus to work unless your willing to walk a mile or two and transfer on a few buses.

But Seattle is still very much a car centric place too.


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I'd like to see more Atlantans get over their disinclination to ride the bus. Every time I've been in Seattle it seems like a lot more people ride the bus.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I'd like to see more Atlantans get over their disinclination to ride the bus. Every time I've been in Seattle it seems like a lot more people ride the bus.
It would be nice, but frequency must be high. I'm not waiting 10 minutes for a bus for a place I can get to in 15. Its hard enough justifying riding the train over driving...
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Yes, people of all economic levels ride the bus in Seattle. But even for many who would like to in Atlanta, the bus coverage isn't good enough for it to make sense. If your like many who work in a suburban office park setting more than likely you can't take the bus to work unless your willing to walk a mile or two and transfer on a few buses.

But Seattle is still very much a car centric place too.
True, Noah. But since I've moved to Seattle I've noticed a marked difference in the run times between buses. My daughter did, too. And it's true that Seattle has its own traffic problems. But unlike Atlanta, they seem to be more proactive in dealing with mass transportation issues. JME so far.
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:42 PM
 
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Even Lovin since moving to Seattle has begun to see the massive faults in Atlanta. If you travel a lot, Atlanta is not that great of a city for how prominent it is on the world stage...it's like it grew too fast for it's own good. So you have this city that you'd expect to be at Boston, Philly, D.C. status, but it falters.
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