Women robbed on Beltline (Atlanta, Decatur: neighborhood, college, to live in)

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by bu2

Good question. Maybe you need a critical mass. But you can't get the critical mass until it is safe.

I know some people will go apoplectic over this, but someone who worked in the area told us (about a week ago) a lot of the people breaking into cars were using the Beltline to get there and then to escape.

This isn't surprising. That's why crime infested areas can't have nice things. They always abuse it. Give them public parks, they meet to sell drugs. Give them public art, they deface and "tag" it. People are always complaining that tax money always goes to improving the wealthy areas, but that's because they know how to take care of it and not abuse it. The beltline is no different - create something nice, and some "bright" thugs will figure out a way to use it to con/rob someone and spoil it for everyone else.

The only solution is just to continue gentrfication. The beltline may create a new way to commit crime, but it is also pushing up home values throughout the city and will eventually push the criminals further out into the exburbs.

[forty and out]

Originally Posted by Othello Is Here

Crime is so high in America because the underclass of low income and poorly educated properly males from areas with little to no opportunities will always continue to be a problem the more we have income inequality.
In Hong Kong you dont see citizens with guns walking around everywhere.Why is that?For the same reasons in which I have said above.
Hong Kong is an extremely dense city.People everywhere see everything.
Also Hong Kong being apart of China can make people disappear without so much as a fair trial.

As far as a woman walking around robbed or harassed in Hong Kong,is not Hong Kong one of the top cities for sex trafficking of women and slavery?
If I was a woman and had the choice,I think Id go with being robbed.

The only comment I have for your above response is now I understand why your response to reputation ratio is so out of whack.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Forhall

This isn't surprising. That's why crime infested areas can't have nice things. They always abuse it. Give them public parks, they meet to sell drugs. Give them public art, they deface and "tag" it. People are always complaining that tax money always goes to improving the wealthy areas, but that's because they know how to take care of it and not abuse it. The beltline is no different - create something nice, and some "bright" thugs will figure out a way to use it to con/rob someone and spoil it for everyone else.

The only solution is just to continue gentrfication. The beltline may create a new way to commit crime, but it is also pushing up home values throughout the city and will eventually push the criminals further out into the exburbs.

Well this was someone who worked in Virginia Highlands. Its quite "gentrified."

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by forty and out

The only comment I have for your above response is now I understand why your response to reputation ratio is so out of whack.

If there's one thing I've noticed after using forums pretty heavily for about 12 years, it's that the people who are the rudest, cockiest, and downright most vitriolic posters tend to have high reputations. Why? Because people like them rep them for everything they say, whereas I don't rep people for just posting general stuff.

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Encouraging the death of other humans? You are a grade A a**hole. Killing criminals is not why Hong Kong is the way you are observing, they invest a lot in their people than we do in America.

People need to be scared to ever try to cause harm to someone else in a criminal act. It goes against everything of a civil society where people can live and prosper without fear. In Hong Kong and many countries in Asia the penalty for even posessing an illegal fireman can be life in prison, yet alone using it in a crime. Criminals here aren't scared of our laws and there are too many people like you who bend over and just take it which only encourages such crimes because it is easier than working a job.

[AcidSnake]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What is the best way to combat crimes like this?

An inclusive booming economy that reaches all social sectors of American society that puts livable wage money in people's pockets.

And public sector & private sector policies that discourage the welfare mindstate and the effects thereof. All at the same time.

Right off bat that's my feeling.

I don't see that happening with this government though. But it never really happened with any government in this country...at all.

[forty and out]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

If there's one thing I've noticed after using forums pretty heavily for about 12 years, it's that the people who are the rudest, cockiest, and downright most vitriolic posters tend to have high reputations. Why? Because people like them rep them for everything they say, whereas I don't rep people for just posting general stuff.

I see your rep to post ratio is out of whack too. Try to post comments that make sense instead of drivel. Quality not quantity.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by forty and out

I see your rep to post ratio is out of whack too. Try to post comments that make sense instead of drivel. Quality not quantity.

Attacking two posters that are consistently reasonable in what they assert in this forum.
Who are you, anyway, the Reputation Gestapo?

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by AcidSnake

An inclusive booming economy that reaches all social sectors of American society that puts livable wage money in people's pockets.

And public sector & private sector policies that discourage the welfare mindstate and the effects thereof. All at the same time.

Right off bat that's my feeling.

I don't see that happening with this government though. But it never really happened with any government in this country...at all.

I wonder what immediate changes we could make locally to move us in that direction? Obviously the ATL can't fix the whole country or the rest of the world.

[Othello Is Here]

Originally Posted by ATLTJL

If we can't make the Beltline safe to walk on late at night, doesn't that rather defeat the purpose for bars and restaurants to be located along it?

No.Once it becomes more developed,it will have more crowds.More crowds will equal less crime